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> These are dark times for US democracy The US system has little d democratic aspects but it is not a democracy. It was intentionally setup to protect the mino

> These are dark times for US democracy The US system has little d democratic aspects but it is not a democracy. It was intentionally setup to protect the minority from the majority in critical respects like constitutional amendments. Also, population shifts are ongoing and the coastal blue populations are the most rapidly aging in the country and the increasingly red US born Hispanic populations are the most rapidly growing. The future may contain some surprises.

seanmcdirmid 4y ago
> population shifts are ongoing and the coastal blue populations are the most rapidly aging in the country But they also have longer lifespans by a couple of years. > increasingly red US born Hispanic populations are the most rapidly growing. A lot of those US born Hispanics are in California and very blue (thanks to Pete Wilson).
- tibbydudeza 4y ago
  Amazing how California shifted from reliable Red (Ronald Reagan era) to reliable blue. What was the factor in this seemingly quick shift - population shifts ???.
  - Ligma123 4y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control_Act_of_1986 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control...
    - tibbydudeza 4y ago
      Pete Wilson and Proposition 187 - clearly the GOP still have not learned.
pasquinelli 4y ago
> It was intentionally setup to protect the minority... ...of the opulent, is the quote.
dragonwriter 4y ago
> the coastal blue populations are the most rapidly aging in the country No, they aren’t. [0] > the increasingly red US born Hispanic populations are the most rapidly growing. The Hispanic population isn’t clearly “increasingly red”. [1] It is also growing slower (between the 2010 and 2020 censuses, 23%) than the Asian (35.5%), American Indian (27.1%), and Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander (27.8%) groups, as well as various multiracial groups. [2] [0] https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2022/population-estimates-characteristics.html https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2022/populati... [1] https://news.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/389093/hispanic-americans-party-updated-analysis.aspx https://news.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/389093/hispa... [2] https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/08/improved-race-ethnicity-measures-reveal-united-states-population-much-more-multiracial.html https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/08/improved-race...
- bumby 4y ago
  While you're not wrong, the strongest interpretation of the OP claim is that they meant growing in absolute numbers. By that measure, Hispanic population grew roughly 3x as much as Asian, 10x more than Native American, and 30x more than Pacific Islander (using your census link). You're own link seems to indicate that Hispanics are shifting to the away from the Democratic party. (In the article, it says they follow a muted version of national trajectory). While that's not the same as saying they are becoming "increasingly red", it is important to note they may be "increasingly less blue."
lovich 4y ago
It’s a democratic republic. I have a distaste for conservative arguments to begin with but the wheedling pedantry of this one they always trout out to ignore the word “democratic” in the description to justify anti democratic measures always manages to annoy me just a little bit harder
- Ekaros 4y ago
  Federal rebulic. It seems that Federal word is way too often forgotten. Maybe first amendment to constitution moving forward should be getting rid of it and just moving everything to single level, currently federal, but after not.
  - lovich 4y ago
    You could say federal democratic republic or federated democratic republic if you want, but it being federated does not remove the democracy portion

seanmcdirmid 4y ago

> population shifts are ongoing and the coastal blue populations are the most rapidly aging in the country But they also have longer lifespans by a couple of years. > increasingly red US born Hispanic populations are the most rapidly growing. A lot of those US born Hispanics are in California and very blue (thanks to Pete Wilson).

tibbydudeza 4y ago
Amazing how California shifted from reliable Red (Ronald Reagan era) to reliable blue. What was the factor in this seemingly quick shift - population shifts ???.
- Ligma123 4y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control_Act_of_1986 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control...
  - tibbydudeza 4y ago
    Pete Wilson and Proposition 187 - clearly the GOP still have not learned.

pasquinelli 4y ago

> It was intentionally setup to protect the minority... ...of the opulent, is the quote.

dragonwriter 4y ago

> the coastal blue populations are the most rapidly aging in the country No, they aren’t. [0] > the increasingly red US born Hispanic populations are the most rapidly growing. The Hispanic population isn’t clearly “increasingly red”. [1] It is also growing slower (between the 2010 and 2020 censuses, 23%) than the Asian (35.5%), American Indian (27.1%), and Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander (27.8%) groups, as well as various multiracial groups. [2] [0] https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2022/population-estimates-characteristics.html https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2022/populati... [1] https://news.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/389093/hispanic-americans-party-updated-analysis.aspx https://news.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/389093/hispa... [2] https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/08/improved-race-ethnicity-measures-reveal-united-states-population-much-more-multiracial.html https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/08/improved-race...

bumby 4y ago
While you're not wrong, the strongest interpretation of the OP claim is that they meant growing in absolute numbers. By that measure, Hispanic population grew roughly 3x as much as Asian, 10x more than Native American, and 30x more than Pacific Islander (using your census link). You're own link seems to indicate that Hispanics are shifting to the away from the Democratic party. (In the article, it says they follow a muted version of national trajectory). While that's not the same as saying they are becoming "increasingly red", it is important to note they may be "increasingly less blue."

lovich 4y ago

It’s a democratic republic. I have a distaste for conservative arguments to begin with but the wheedling pedantry of this one they always trout out to ignore the word “democratic” in the description to justify anti democratic measures always manages to annoy me just a little bit harder

Ekaros 4y ago
Federal rebulic. It seems that Federal word is way too often forgotten. Maybe first amendment to constitution moving forward should be getting rid of it and just moving everything to single level, currently federal, but after not.
- lovich 4y ago
  You could say federal democratic republic or federated democratic republic if you want, but it being federated does not remove the democracy portion