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Maybe 35-40 years ago. My grandmother never locked her door when she was at home, for example, even in 2020, because she'd lived so long in society as it was t
by impossiblefork 4y ago
Maybe 35-40 years ago.
My grandmother never locked her door when she was at home, for example, even in 2020, because she'd lived so long in society as it was that she literally couldn't believe that it could end up as it had; and this wasn't due to stupidity. It was actually safe and normal once.
- jerrre 4y agoDo you mean when she wasn't home? Or is it customary to lock you're home even when you're home now?
- impossiblefork 4y agoYes, these days we lock our homes even when we're home.
- collegeburner 4y agofor what its worth im in America (where crime is way way higher) and i don't consider that normal. probably a cultural thing.
- playingalong 4y agoInteresting Can someone enter your house without using any force or tools?
- notch656a 4y agoI'm from a very hick part of America and I know probably half a dozen people who used a phrase something like "unlocked doored, locked and loaded shotgun." Not exactly condoning that phrase, but the thief in hillbilly parts of America is gonna have to use force eventually if they want to steal from an occupied home whether it is locked or not.
- wincy 4y agoI went into my uncle’s unlocked house and found myself staring down the barrel of his roommate’s gun. People don’t tend to go into occupied houses in the US as there is a very real risk of getting shot.
- impossiblefork 4y agoNot here in Sweden. RC2 (resistance class 2) is to resist attacks with hammers, wedges and screwdrivers for three minutes. RC3 is to resist five minutes of crowbar attack RC4 is to resist power tools for 10 minutes They're often made largely out of steel. I think RC3 is most common, but that RC4 is very rare.
- collegeburner 4y agoi guess? i find most people knock like normal though. i have a good few guns though so i'm fully capable of defending myself. i never figured a residential grade lock was much good against someone anyway and if i'm right there it's not like someone can sneak in. i might be more worried if i was a small guy or a woman but i've never had a problem.
- seti0Cha 4y agoWhere do you live? America is not uniformly high in crime. When I lived in NYC, people absolutely did lock their doors when at home. There was good reason for it too. I suspect other urban areas are similar.
- renewiltord 4y agoI don't even do that in SF, the great crime capital of the world.
- null_object 4y ago> My grandmother never locked her door when she was at home This whole 'golden age' of Sweden is just such a bunch of bs. Take a look, for instance, at this article about a part of central Stockholm which is now extremely expensive real estate: https://skarn.se/hans-marmbo/ https://skarn.se/hans-marmbo/ (in Swedish) I thoroughly recommend running the page through Google translate or DeepL for an insight into the reality of Stockholm just 50 years ago - it's a fascinating and horrific account of drug addicts and lowlifes brutally murdering each other in terrifying and depraved ways. (DeepL translation:) "Prostitutes, alcoholics and drug addicts moved in next door to students and underpaid casual workers. Pickpocketing, knife fights and burglaries became commonplace, and neighbourhoods once considered stately could now have been lifted from a Dickens novel. In the press, the area was called the swamp..."
- impossiblefork 4y agoyeah, and that was literally front page news and was an incredibly unusual event. Furthermore, Östermalm has always been a place full of somewhat disreputable people, even though it ended up a place where relatively rich people lived. Notice that the story you're talking about involves prostitutes and all sorts of deranged stuff. These people may have been associates of the upper class, but there is a reason we Swedes have always despised the upper class.
- null_object 4y ago> that was literally front page news and was an incredibly unusual event. My point wasn't about the specific case (obviously multiple horrific murders are not a common occurrence), I meant the general milieu of drug addiction, law-breaking, prostitution; the disgustingly dirty slum conditions that people lived in - all of which was accompanied by police corruption and brutality. Naturally none of this is popular to bring up in front of Swedes nowadays. As I see that the downvote of my Swedish-negative comments speaks volumes about how much you guys value freedom of expression.
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- renewiltord 4y agoI used to think this about Sweden but literature of that time does not describe a society like that. Literature is often reflective of the world it is in. Not like 2001 : A Space Odyssey is about what the world is like in 2001 but it sort of reflects the assumptions of the world at that time. For instance, there are no smartphones in that world. Anyway, Swedish contemporary literature of that time doesn't tell such a picture which makes me think this is more a factor of an individual experience rather than what that society was like.
- impossiblefork 4y agoAs someone who lived partially in this era and had parents who very ḿuch lived in this era, you're wrong. Take one of the Agaton Sax books, a detective story. It's completely inconceivable in our present society.
- renewiltord 4y agoI haven't read those. What about those books are inconceivable?
- impossiblefork 4y agoThe general attitude in Byköping, the manner in which the villains behave and the inherent foreignness of Agaton Sax's adversaries.
- renewiltord 4y agoI bought the first book. Let me have a look.
- adventured 4y agoWhere I grew up in the mid-Atlantic US people would commonly not lock their homes or cars. Near zero murder rate and home burglaries were exceptionally rare. That's not an uncommon story in the US (maybe it is today), but you do have to be outside of cities.
- astrolx 4y agoMost people I know in the Swedish countryside still don't look any of their doors.
- grecy 4y agoWe never lock our door in Canada now