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"This system was built and created for a different time where criminality was pretty much absent in Sweden" When was this golden age of (almost) no crime, I wo
by m_eiman 4y ago
"This system was built and created for a different time where criminality was pretty much absent in Sweden"
When was this golden age of (almost) no crime, I wonder?
- yunohn 4y agoI’m sure this is alluding to the common anti-immigration sentiment, where all crime is blamed on refugees that are constantly othered and hated.
- thrown_22 4y ago
- u10 4y agoOne, nobody thinks that, and two, a rather glib response to a rather complex satistical issue.
- thrown_22 4y ago
- Retric 4y agoOnly if you compare wildly different statistics without context. During the years 2013-2017, Sweden averaged 64 reported rapes per 100,000 inhabitants—a rate that tied for the highest in Europe. However, when the data was examined, it became clear that Sweden's high numbers were fueled in large part by Sweden's broader definition of rape and more inclusive reporting rules compared to other European countries. When the data was recalculated using Germany's narrower guidelines, for example, Sweden's average reported rapes per 100,000 people fell from 64 to 15, a decrease of 326.7%.
- mminer237 4y agoThat still would make it the third-highest in Europe, only behind Belgium and Norway. It would still be 50% higher than Germany and over four times somewhere like Spain.
- Retric 4y agoThat was only correcting for the definition between those 2 countries. It says nothing about what percentage of rapes get reported in each country or how other European countries define things. In the end it’s easy to compare numbers, it much harder to get at the underlying truth.
- Nextgrid 4y agoNot sure what kind of crime they are referring to, but they'd be correct if they merely talk about the trafficking and monetization of personal data. This is an industry that only really became possible (and socially acceptable) in the last couple decades. Before that, the data may have been public, and isolated criminals would've no doubt used it, but in general there wasn't an entire industry dedicated to exploiting this data at large scale.
- impossiblefork 4y agoMaybe 35-40 years ago. My grandmother never locked her door when she was at home, for example, even in 2020, because she'd lived so long in society as it was that she literally couldn't believe that it could end up as it had; and this wasn't due to stupidity. It was actually safe and normal once.
- jerrre 4y agoDo you mean when she wasn't home? Or is it customary to lock you're home even when you're home now?
- impossiblefork 4y agoYes, these days we lock our homes even when we're home.
- collegeburner 4y agofor what its worth im in America (where crime is way way higher) and i don't consider that normal. probably a cultural thing.
- playingalong 4y agoInteresting Can someone enter your house without using any force or tools?
- notch656a 4y agoI'm from a very hick part of America and I know probably half a dozen people who used a phrase something like "unlocked doored, locked and loaded shotgun." Not exactly condoning that phrase, but the thief in hillbilly parts of America is gonna have to use force eventually if they want to steal from an occupied home whether it is locked or not.
- wincy 4y agoI went into my uncle’s unlocked house and found myself staring down the barrel of his roommate’s gun. People don’t tend to go into occupied houses in the US as there is a very real risk of getting shot.
- BoredPositron 4y agoCould be now just look at the common crime-free days in Singapore. https://www.statista.com/statistics/981486/crime-free-days-snatch-theft-housebreaking-robbery-singapore/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/981486/crime-free-days-s...