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Microsoft's Apple envy continues - additionally hobbled by Qualcomm's indistinguished/2nd rate hardware and disinterested developers.
by blinkingled 4y ago
Microsoft's Apple envy continues - additionally hobbled by Qualcomm's indistinguished/2nd rate hardware and disinterested developers.
- raverbashing 4y agoIf only MS was a larger company with more market push to get QComm to put effort in it or find another supplier... /s Or maybe, in some twisted logic they want to sabotage their own ARM products in favor of Intel
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- osigurdson 4y agoI’d like to be able to run Windows on mac M series.
- smoldesu 4y agoOr full-featured Linux, for that matter.
- VTimofeenko 4y agoArm64 vms seem to be working great. And pretty soon Asahi will get to the point of being completely usable as a daily driver
- smoldesu 4y agoWhy would I buy a Mac Mini for Linux when devices like this exist? The Qualcomm chip is officially supported and much cheaper than buying the Mac. Seems to be much less hassle and better value on the Microsoft side of things.
- Funnyduck99 4y agoYeah I am seriously considering getting one of these. 32gb of ram for 600 dollars plus its a decent specked arm machine with plenty of ports
- thisarticle 4y agoWhere does it say Linux is officially supported?
- smoldesu 4y agoThe chip is having mainline Linux support merged with 5.20, according to Phoronix: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-5.20-SoCs-8cx-Gen3-Arm https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-5.20-SoCs-8cx-Gen3-Arm
- sliken 4y agoSure, doesn't mean that everything works though. The Thinkpad x13s has the same CPU and apparently is quite tricky to get booted. Once booted audio, sleep, bluetooth and the like has been problematic. Granted that's more of an issue with a laptop than a SFF like the DevKit. Things do seem to be improving. Releasing the Thinkpad x13s has brought attention to the 8cx gen 3 from the Linux community.
- alexellisuk 4y agoI've tried it. It seems like even with a 6.0 Kernel, additional DTBs are required to boot. https://twitter.com/alexellisuk/status/1585562359254421504?s=20&t=aM3vYMh2SksCGkNDg9u5XQ https://twitter.com/alexellisuk/status/1585562359254421504?s...
- monocasa 4y agoI'd wait to hear if this board has Linux support. It might have a locked bootloader.
- smoldesu 4y ago
- 58028641 4y agoAsahi Linux is making decent progress.
- osigurdson 4y agoHow does battery life compare to macOS?
- osigurdson 4y agoI wish macOS just was Linux.
- skohan 4y agoWhat more *nix do you want on macOS than is already there? I can understand from the lockdown perspective (i.e. just give me a Vulkan driver on macOS) but as a polished DTE with a unix terminal I find it pretty decent.
- sliken 4y agoZFS or any other filesystems. Package manager that controls the entire system, not just add ons. Choice of desktop environments, no silly $3 apps to enable simple things like edge snapping. Options for tile based window manager, etc. Decent cut/paste (no control-v and control-c instead of sweep and click to paste). SystemTap for performance analysis. Seamless use of containers with the same environment as the host OS. Ability to create binaries that don't require the approval of some Apple run web service to run.
- w1nst0nsm1th 4y agoThat being said BetterTouchTools and Keyboard Maestro are far above what you can possibly find in any linux software. MacOS desktop by itself is pretty limited, but once you had these two softwares, the desktop experience become pretty nice, far above anything you find in any completed linux desktop. But it is it. It's only a 'desktop experience'... Coupled with deep integration with ipad and iphone. If you want more of a *nix integration, Brew is pretty nice and do more of less the job. As for container, dockers work seamlessly on the command line and integrate well with the file system, even if containers still run atop of a virtual machine.
- NayamAmarshe 4y agoMacOS is great and all but no Ctrl + Alt + T for terminal, no deal.
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- speedgoose 4y agoHave you tried Parallels Desktop?
- GeekyBear 4y agoWell, if they had copied Apple, they would have offered a $499 developer test kit that you could use for a year to port your app(s) to ARM and then return for a $200 credit. Then you wouldn't be stuck paying way more for much less capable hardware.