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Sorry Microsoft, you lost me with Windows 11. I'll wait until you release a worthy successor to Windows 10, just like when I skipped Vista.

DeathArrow 4y ago
I also skipped Windows Millennium and Windows 8.
- fxtentacle 4y ago
  Yeah ME was awful, too. I thought 8.1 was actually OK.
jstimpfle 4y ago
Is there a list of things that are worse with 11? I had it pushed on one of my less frequently used devices and so far all that has been annoying has been the Explorer context menu which hides "less used" items (some of which I frequently need, of course) behind a "More" entry.
- nevi-me 4y ago
  I'd also be curious to know. I've found Win11 to mostly be a skin on top of 10. Maybe I'm biased because I'm on the Insider Program, and I get changes incrementally instead of as a big release in 2 years
- taspeotis 4y ago
  Personally I find Windows 11 fine although the decision to make the start bar only icons instead of icon + text is a bit bizarre in today’s trend towards (ultra)wide monitors.
  - nightski 4y ago
    I despise the fact that there is no right-click/context menu on the task bar. I use that frequently.
    - taspeotis 4y ago
      I think there is a registry key for that? And the very latest Insider build brings back Task Manager on right click. Explorer Patcher can fix it all but you shouldn’t be obliged to fight the OS to feel productive.
- neogodless 4y ago
  For me personally - Taskbar cannot be pinned to the side on my widescreen monitors - Items on taskbar cannot be un-grouped - Cannot show text on taskbar - News/weather widget is awful, full of clickbait news and tiny Weather widget, which is vastly inferior to having a live tile that opens to a full screen weather app - Reduced start menu customization (live tiles / grid are replaced with folders that add an extra click) Other than that I haven't used it enough to comment much more. I have it on my laptop which is mostly just used for gaming, and I can tolerate the taskbar and start menu regressions. But for me, most of using Windows is... using the taskbar and start menu. To take away most of their functionality seems like complete insanity!
  - jyrkesh 4y ago
    > - Items on taskbar cannot be un-grouped Oh my god, so much this one. It's driving me insane. I keep hoping that the next round of Start menu "improvements" bring it back, but I keep getting disappointed.
  - gzer0 4y ago
    This tool [1] can solve all of your Windows 11 problems. I simply refuse to use windows 11 without the full right click context menu. This open source program does that, and much, much more. Smaller task bar, grouping/ungrouping icons. So glad I found this. [1] https://github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcher https://github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcher
  - layer8 4y ago
    - The awful new context menu in Explorer.
    - dmonitor 4y ago
      it's so terrible that they even have to include a "show the good context menu" button
- fxtentacle 4y ago
  They basically tried to remove everything that needs a 2nd mouse button. Plus many keyboard shortcuts are gone. It looks and feels like an iPad to me, not like an environment to be productive in.
nyanpasu64 4y ago
Windows 10 (and perhaps 8) was the beginning of Windows as spyware and adware that exists to manipulate rather than serve the user (outside of past obscure edge cases like Windows's anti-piracy mechanisms and disabling debugging on audiodg.exe). Now we have forced Microsoft accounts at install time, gaslighting users for switching off Edge and sending your Edge browsing history to coupon clipping sites, telemetry in Windows and Visual Studio and every time you open a MSVC command prompt, Visual Studio phoning home your menu searched to the web for "cloud AI menu search results"...
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DeathArrow 4y ago

I also skipped Windows Millennium and Windows 8.

fxtentacle 4y ago
Yeah ME was awful, too. I thought 8.1 was actually OK.

jstimpfle 4y ago

Is there a list of things that are worse with 11? I had it pushed on one of my less frequently used devices and so far all that has been annoying has been the Explorer context menu which hides "less used" items (some of which I frequently need, of course) behind a "More" entry.

nevi-me 4y ago
I'd also be curious to know. I've found Win11 to mostly be a skin on top of 10. Maybe I'm biased because I'm on the Insider Program, and I get changes incrementally instead of as a big release in 2 years
taspeotis 4y ago
Personally I find Windows 11 fine although the decision to make the start bar only icons instead of icon + text is a bit bizarre in today’s trend towards (ultra)wide monitors.
- nightski 4y ago
  I despise the fact that there is no right-click/context menu on the task bar. I use that frequently.
  - taspeotis 4y ago
    I think there is a registry key for that? And the very latest Insider build brings back Task Manager on right click. Explorer Patcher can fix it all but you shouldn’t be obliged to fight the OS to feel productive.
neogodless 4y ago
For me personally - Taskbar cannot be pinned to the side on my widescreen monitors - Items on taskbar cannot be un-grouped - Cannot show text on taskbar - News/weather widget is awful, full of clickbait news and tiny Weather widget, which is vastly inferior to having a live tile that opens to a full screen weather app - Reduced start menu customization (live tiles / grid are replaced with folders that add an extra click) Other than that I haven't used it enough to comment much more. I have it on my laptop which is mostly just used for gaming, and I can tolerate the taskbar and start menu regressions. But for me, most of using Windows is... using the taskbar and start menu. To take away most of their functionality seems like complete insanity!
- jyrkesh 4y ago
  > - Items on taskbar cannot be un-grouped Oh my god, so much this one. It's driving me insane. I keep hoping that the next round of Start menu "improvements" bring it back, but I keep getting disappointed.
- gzer0 4y ago
  This tool [1] can solve all of your Windows 11 problems. I simply refuse to use windows 11 without the full right click context menu. This open source program does that, and much, much more. Smaller task bar, grouping/ungrouping icons. So glad I found this. [1] https://github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcher https://github.com/valinet/ExplorerPatcher
- layer8 4y ago
  - The awful new context menu in Explorer.
  - dmonitor 4y ago
    it's so terrible that they even have to include a "show the good context menu" button
fxtentacle 4y ago
They basically tried to remove everything that needs a 2nd mouse button. Plus many keyboard shortcuts are gone. It looks and feels like an iPad to me, not like an environment to be productive in.

nyanpasu64 4y ago

Windows 10 (and perhaps 8) was the beginning of Windows as spyware and adware that exists to manipulate rather than serve the user (outside of past obscure edge cases like Windows's anti-piracy mechanisms and disabling debugging on audiodg.exe). Now we have forced Microsoft accounts at install time, gaslighting users for switching off Edge and sending your Edge browsing history to coupon clipping sites, telemetry in Windows and Visual Studio and every time you open a MSVC command prompt, Visual Studio phoning home your menu searched to the web for "cloud AI menu search results"...

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