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So, "everyone" is switching to ARM now?

by tmikaeld 4y ago

throwntoday 4y ago
Take a look at what Apple is doing today to find out what the industry is doing in a year or two.
- counttheforks 4y ago
  Break the build tools for their cash cow about once a month, and forbid anyone from developing for it without spending thousands of dollars on new hardware?
  - karamanolev 4y ago
    Seems to be working out for them alright. I'd love to make fun of them for similar reasons, but look at market, and more importantly, mind, share...
    - counttheforks 4y ago
      Where would we be if we can't make fun of popular things?
- jccalhoun 4y ago
  Windows has been on ARM since 2012 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_RT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_RT
  - chasil 4y ago
    Windows CE was actually on it long before this. The original launch of CE was on MIPS and Super-H, but ARM appears to have gained support with Windows CE version 2.2.0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Embedded_Compact https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Embedded_Compact
- MBCook 4y ago
  Apple seems to be a lot more than 2 years ahead. The M1 was November 2020. That’s two years ago, give or take a few weeks. There is nothing close to the M1 available for a Windows ARM computer. There is nothing close from Intel/AMD if you just want an ultra-low power chip with very good performance.
Kye 4y ago
Microsoft was there first, but handled it so poorly it got memory holed. edit: I forgot about the A in ARM.
- moffkalast 4y ago
  It cost them an ARM and a leg.
- SllX 4y ago
  Nah, Acorn was first.
- chasil 4y ago
  I think the Newton was the first major use of the architecture outside the Acorn Archimedes. "...an advanced, low-power processor was needed for sophisticated graphics manipulation. He found Hermann Hauser, who had developed the Acorn RISC Machine that utilized what became known as the ARM architecture, and put together Advanced RISC Machines, now Arm Ltd." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Newton https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Newton Around this time, DEC also chose to implement their StrongARM, so that pushed into embedded. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StrongARM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StrongARM
  - deleted 4y ago
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So, "everyone" is switching to ARM now?

throwntoday 4y ago

Take a look at what Apple is doing today to find out what the industry is doing in a year or two.

counttheforks 4y ago
Break the build tools for their cash cow about once a month, and forbid anyone from developing for it without spending thousands of dollars on new hardware?
- karamanolev 4y ago
  Seems to be working out for them alright. I'd love to make fun of them for similar reasons, but look at market, and more importantly, mind, share...
  - counttheforks 4y ago
    Where would we be if we can't make fun of popular things?
jccalhoun 4y ago
Windows has been on ARM since 2012 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_RT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_RT
- chasil 4y ago
  Windows CE was actually on it long before this. The original launch of CE was on MIPS and Super-H, but ARM appears to have gained support with Windows CE version 2.2.0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Embedded_Compact https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Embedded_Compact
MBCook 4y ago
Apple seems to be a lot more than 2 years ahead. The M1 was November 2020. That’s two years ago, give or take a few weeks. There is nothing close to the M1 available for a Windows ARM computer. There is nothing close from Intel/AMD if you just want an ultra-low power chip with very good performance.

Kye 4y ago

Microsoft was there first, but handled it so poorly it got memory holed. edit: I forgot about the A in ARM.

moffkalast 4y ago
It cost them an ARM and a leg.
SllX 4y ago
Nah, Acorn was first.
chasil 4y ago
I think the Newton was the first major use of the architecture outside the Acorn Archimedes. "...an advanced, low-power processor was needed for sophisticated graphics manipulation. He found Hermann Hauser, who had developed the Acorn RISC Machine that utilized what became known as the ARM architecture, and put together Advanced RISC Machines, now Arm Ltd." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Newton https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Newton Around this time, DEC also chose to implement their StrongARM, so that pushed into embedded. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StrongARM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StrongARM
- deleted 4y ago
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