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Damn you can’t say no ? I learned to let the users pick the right time for update on my first job. ( by having to drive and fix my mess ) But we were a tiny s

Damn you can’t say no ? I learned to let the users pick the right time for update on my first job. ( by having to drive and fix my mess ) But we were a tiny software shop. No MS I guess.

tgsovlerkhgsel 4y ago
It's gotten a bit better, but I still remember booting up my machine (after not using it for a while), getting a "WOULD YOU LIKE TO UPDATE NOW OR IN 10 MINUTES?" dialog, and sure enough, after 10 minutes, the system force-rebooted, discarding any unsaved work (!), and spent the better part of the hour I had available to finally play a game on installing an update. Might have been the same update that reset my privacy settings.
- marcosdumay 4y ago
  Well, "better" here means you get the chance to start the update by yourself withing a few days. No warning is displayed on those few days, and if you fail to update by yourself, the system still force-reboots and loses any unsaved work. Also, my impression is that the updates have become much less reliable. So your computer may not be back at all. Or something you need never work anymore.
_jal 4y ago
That's why friends don't let friends run Microsoft software. In return for your money, you get to follow their orders, watch their ads, and generally compute in whatever way they want you to this quarter. Windows is a control mechanism that, for now, runs third party code.
- dopidopHN 4y ago
  I mean yeah. I thought they got better with time. Apparently not. My motto with “computer help” is “ok, let me install Linux on that, we’ll see what I can do” Usually that works. ( people get scared and I’m off the hook) But the older part of my family is running exclusively on Linux since a decade. Not much support needed.
alpaca128 4y ago
Not only can you not say no, sometimes the computer will wake itself from suspend in the night and update - or fail trying. And you can't stop it (except for pulling the power cord) because Windows won't provide an option to shutdown without update. It's so incredibly disrespectful towards users.
layer8 4y ago
The only way I know of to reliably prevent forced reboots is to use Reboot Blocker, a background service which continually shifts the configured (mandatory) daily time window for reboots, so that you’re always outside of that window.

Damn you can’t say no ? I learned to let the users pick the right time for update on my first job. ( by having to drive and fix my mess ) But we were a tiny software shop. No MS I guess.

tgsovlerkhgsel 4y ago

It's gotten a bit better, but I still remember booting up my machine (after not using it for a while), getting a "WOULD YOU LIKE TO UPDATE NOW OR IN 10 MINUTES?" dialog, and sure enough, after 10 minutes, the system force-rebooted, discarding any unsaved work (!), and spent the better part of the hour I had available to finally play a game on installing an update. Might have been the same update that reset my privacy settings.

marcosdumay 4y ago
Well, "better" here means you get the chance to start the update by yourself withing a few days. No warning is displayed on those few days, and if you fail to update by yourself, the system still force-reboots and loses any unsaved work. Also, my impression is that the updates have become much less reliable. So your computer may not be back at all. Or something you need never work anymore.

_jal 4y ago

That's why friends don't let friends run Microsoft software. In return for your money, you get to follow their orders, watch their ads, and generally compute in whatever way they want you to this quarter. Windows is a control mechanism that, for now, runs third party code.

dopidopHN 4y ago
I mean yeah. I thought they got better with time. Apparently not. My motto with “computer help” is “ok, let me install Linux on that, we’ll see what I can do” Usually that works. ( people get scared and I’m off the hook) But the older part of my family is running exclusively on Linux since a decade. Not much support needed.

alpaca128 4y ago

Not only can you not say no, sometimes the computer will wake itself from suspend in the night and update - or fail trying. And you can't stop it (except for pulling the power cord) because Windows won't provide an option to shutdown without update. It's so incredibly disrespectful towards users.

layer8 4y ago

The only way I know of to reliably prevent forced reboots is to use Reboot Blocker, a background service which continually shifts the configured (mandatory) daily time window for reboots, so that you’re always outside of that window.