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My thoughts exactly. While reading this I could not think about the same counter-intuitive reaction that people have when they drive and the car slips. Most peo

My thoughts exactly. While reading this I could not think about the same counter-intuitive reaction that people have when they drive and the car slips. Most people steer in the direction of the road when the single action to regain control is to slightly steer in the direction of the slippage.

nradov 15y ago
Except that steering in the direction of the slippage may not be the correct action at all, at least in some vehicles. http://www.oregon.gov/OSP/PATROL/safety_tip_slide_control.shtml http://www.oregon.gov/OSP/PATROL/safety_tip_slide_control.sh...
- crististm 15y ago
  It indeed depends on how the car slips. What is different is the amount you do throttle, braking and steering but the response is so counter-intuitive that you need proper training to do it correctly.
joss82 15y ago
The correct course of action is to declutch so that the wheels get back in sync with the road. Of course, you cannot do that on an automatic car.
- crististm 15y ago
  Whatever actions you take they should aim to regain traction. My point is - the car's response is non-linear in such circumstances and linear responses don't help. You can find on youtube videos of drifting cars. You can see there how complex your response (steering + throttle + braking) should be with respect to the car's state on the road. If the plane stalls it goes down. Ponting it upwards to not go down will make it stalling even worse. You didn't have any speed to begin with and now the angle of attack is reducing its speed even more. (Don't assume de-clutching works if you did not test it in a safe env)
DasIch 15y ago
That very much depends on the angle, speed, acceleration and traction you have and whether you are slipping in the front or back. That being said in reality most people don't have the training and experience to regain control anyway, which makes the very counter-intuitive option of crashing your car in a way that doesn't/is unlikely to kill anyone a fairly good option.

nradov 15y ago

Except that steering in the direction of the slippage may not be the correct action at all, at least in some vehicles. http://www.oregon.gov/OSP/PATROL/safety_tip_slide_control.shtml http://www.oregon.gov/OSP/PATROL/safety_tip_slide_control.sh...

crististm 15y ago
It indeed depends on how the car slips. What is different is the amount you do throttle, braking and steering but the response is so counter-intuitive that you need proper training to do it correctly.

joss82 15y ago

The correct course of action is to declutch so that the wheels get back in sync with the road. Of course, you cannot do that on an automatic car.

crististm 15y ago
Whatever actions you take they should aim to regain traction. My point is - the car's response is non-linear in such circumstances and linear responses don't help. You can find on youtube videos of drifting cars. You can see there how complex your response (steering + throttle + braking) should be with respect to the car's state on the road. If the plane stalls it goes down. Ponting it upwards to not go down will make it stalling even worse. You didn't have any speed to begin with and now the angle of attack is reducing its speed even more. (Don't assume de-clutching works if you did not test it in a safe env)

DasIch 15y ago

That very much depends on the angle, speed, acceleration and traction you have and whether you are slipping in the front or back. That being said in reality most people don't have the training and experience to regain control anyway, which makes the very counter-intuitive option of crashing your car in a way that doesn't/is unlikely to kill anyone a fairly good option.