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China and Russia isolating themselves? You’ve heard of BRICS right?

tuatoru 4y ago
Here is how your BRICS were doing up until 2017.[1] India and China: OK at that point (before Modi and Xi had really started micromanaging, and before Covid hit trade). Brazil, Russia, and South Africa: get a participation certificate and commiserations. The acronym "BRICS" was a western invention in the early 2000s, shorthand for a list of good places to invest. Nothing more. 1. https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Annual-GDP-Growth-of-BRICS-Countries_fig1_334611498 https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Annual-GDP-Growth-of-BRI...
- 0x445442 4y ago
  A lot has happened since 2017.
orwin 4y ago
Brasil, Russia, India, China, South Africa. Tell me, besides Russia who managed to align with both China and India in some way and is their intermediary (no kidding, Russian diplomacy was top tier before they attacked), which of this country do you think will align with each other against the US? China managed in five years to be hated more than UK and France in Africa (Russia however is very well viewed there, again their diplomacy and PR). Brazil managed to create a pretty good sphere of influence but Bolsonaro by himself massacred that (his recording about abusing underage venezuelan refugees do not help, but the trend was downward before). If i based myself solely on demographic and the concept of demographic dividends, i would be worried for most Brics. Luckily, I've read a bit about hidden migration and i now understand where the wives and sisters of Gulf countries and Singapore 'workers' are send (doing a different kind of 'work'), so i think China will do just fine. Probably the others will too once they fix their political troubles.
- 0x445442 4y ago
  I wouldn’t be worried for most BRICS. Their coalition is growing because the world sees the hypocrisy of the west. And even the legacy western media is reluctantly capitulating to that fact. https://www.newsweek.com/nearly-90-percent-world-isnt-following-us-ukraine-opinion-1743061 https://www.newsweek.com/nearly-90-percent-world-isnt-follow...

Here is how your BRICS were doing up until 2017.[1] India and China: OK at that point (before Modi and Xi had really started micromanaging, and before Covid hit trade). Brazil, Russia, and South Africa: get a participation certificate and commiserations. The acronym "BRICS" was a western invention in the early 2000s, shorthand for a list of good places to invest. Nothing more. 1. https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Annual-GDP-Growth-of-BRICS-Countries_fig1_334611498 https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Annual-GDP-Growth-of-BRI...

0x445442 4y ago
A lot has happened since 2017.

orwin 4y ago

Brasil, Russia, India, China, South Africa. Tell me, besides Russia who managed to align with both China and India in some way and is their intermediary (no kidding, Russian diplomacy was top tier before they attacked), which of this country do you think will align with each other against the US? China managed in five years to be hated more than UK and France in Africa (Russia however is very well viewed there, again their diplomacy and PR). Brazil managed to create a pretty good sphere of influence but Bolsonaro by himself massacred that (his recording about abusing underage venezuelan refugees do not help, but the trend was downward before). If i based myself solely on demographic and the concept of demographic dividends, i would be worried for most Brics. Luckily, I've read a bit about hidden migration and i now understand where the wives and sisters of Gulf countries and Singapore 'workers' are send (doing a different kind of 'work'), so i think China will do just fine. Probably the others will too once they fix their political troubles.

0x445442 4y ago
I wouldn’t be worried for most BRICS. Their coalition is growing because the world sees the hypocrisy of the west. And even the legacy western media is reluctantly capitulating to that fact. https://www.newsweek.com/nearly-90-percent-world-isnt-following-us-ukraine-opinion-1743061 https://www.newsweek.com/nearly-90-percent-world-isnt-follow...