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Apparently you cannot have the Kanye interview on Google Drive now
- devwastaken 4y agoAs always with content ID for "totally only bad things trust the authorities" there are humans behind these systems, and humans will do what they want regardless of the intent or rules of the system.
- superchroma 4y ago"what kind of bs is this that you cannot have a video on your own cloud drive" "your own cloud" not a single person called out that oxymoron, what a tragedy
- smoldesu 4y agoIt's much less ironic when Google makes you agree to an EULA waiving your rights to retaliate when they remove your content with no warning or explaination. Folks, it's simple: if you want to ensure something stays hosted online, host it yourself.
- Eyght 4y agoDoes the EULA cover leaving a 1 star review? It's a kind of retaliation.
- smoldesu 4y agoNope, just the legal kind. You're welcome to protest and demonstrate as much as you want, but it's unlikely Google even cares about their B2C sales model. The people who actually pay for Drive are the business customers who probably aren't subject to the same terms.
- bitwize 4y agoIf you attempt to host reactionary material online, do not expect your hosting provider or anyone upstream from you to continue providing you service. You are too much of a risk.
- homonculus1 4y agoWhy?
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- bitwize 4y agoNo one wants to be seen as condoning hate or toxic political opinions.
- homonculus1 4y agoSeen by who? This angle is disingenuous, because no third party is going to single out this file being on Google Drive and punish Google for not censoring it. Admit it, this is 100% autonomous action on the part of Google to suppress ideas and opinions they disapprove of. There is zero external pressure or risk. The excuse of some nebulous toxic miasma is nothing but a fig leaf for exercising political power.
- smoldesu 4y agoThat's all well-and-good, but it doesn't save you from mob justice. Cloudflare almost had their business collapse until they took proactive action against one of their clients. Google sees the writing on the wall, and they know they can posture themselves as "preserving election integrity" or whatever and get away with it. It's nothing new, and it's certainly wrong, but it's also part of our individual freedom as enterprising Americans. This is what happens when you don't regulate the tech sector, is everyone happy now? Even if it was 100% autonomous opinion-enforcement (which is unlikely, but I'll entertain it), it's 100% Google's right to enforce that. You're on their platform, you don't get to make the rules. If your neighbor gives you a spare shed on their lot, they're not inviting you to decorate it in political regalia and extremist logos. If you become enough of a nuisance, they're probably just going to ask for their shed back and tell you to be more respectful next time.
- Markoff 4y agosure, until your server will be cut off by hosting provider, DNS or ISP, but hey you can create your own internet, nobody force you to self censor yourself same as nobody forced people to get vaxxed, people chose to lose their jobs and go through social death because they like it, the illusion of choice...
- simplotek 4y ago> not a single person called out that oxymoron, Not an oxymoron. It's your own service subscription which you use to store your own files, even if it's running on someone else's computer.
- inhumantsar 4y agoIt might not be an oxymoron, but it is like complaining about the landlord saying no to an aquarium in your rented apartment.
- falcolas 4y agoLess aquarium, more a DVD you’re loaning to friends or inviting the over to watch.
- josephcsible 4y agoWhy did you choose to say "aquarium" rather than "table", "chair", or "bed"?
- PebblesRox 4y ago> your own cloud drive? you just use it, its borrowed. It could be stronger but I'd consider the above comment to qualify.
- gruez 4y agoI'm not sure why you decided to cut off "drive" from "cloud drive" in your second quote. From a grammatical perspective "cloud drive" forms one entity, and cutting it off so you can get a juicy quote of "your own cloud" makes no sense.
- superchroma 4y agocloud = someone else's computer that's it at the end of the day, they can and do do whatever they like
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- notsound 4y agoTBH this might be one of Ye’s people trying to control the damage.
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- josephcsible 4y agoIf that were the case, I'd expect that the email would say it was a copyright takedown or something, not that it "contains content that may violate Google Drive's Hate Speech policy."
- nvr219 4y agoWhat does purple-haired priesthood mean
- Markoff 4y agoTo simplify people supporting the current thing ® (BLM, LBGT, climate/carbon stuff, COVID vax, Ukraine, etc) have very often non natural hair color like purple/pink/blue etc. You will hardly find them among opposition against supporting the current thing.
- nvr219 4y agoOh. Well I don't know why anyone would be opposed to supporting any of the things you mentioned but ok.
- veeti 4y agoThat shit is fucking ridiculous.
- AdamJacobMuller 4y agoIt's like that sometimes, this shit ridiculous
- bushbaba 4y agoYet again Google proving it shouldn't be used in the Enterprise. Not that far fetched to see a future event where a Google ML algorithm decided a corporation's fiscal earnings document didn't meet the ML model's community guidelines and locked a CFO's account.
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- nvr219 4y agoI'm interested in how Google does this on a technical level. Anyone have insight? Do they have a database of "known hateful files" and compare the md5s or something like that? do they scan text and videos for word combinations and sentences known to be hate speech?
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- evilmoo 4y agoReading and comprehending is hard. You can have it on Google Drive, you just can’t share it.
- hdjjhhvvhga 4y agoWhy?
- nvr219 4y agoAre you asking why Google doesn't want people to share hate speech on its platform? This isn't a new thing, AT&T tried to block people from sharing KKK recordings on the telephone. https://www.fastcompany.com/40541251/before-social-media-hate-speech-and-propaganda-spread-by-phone https://www.fastcompany.com/40541251/before-social-media-hat...
- sneedem 4y agoWho defines hate speech?
- claaams 4y agoYou can zip the file and pw protect it so Google can't access it. For all they know it's just vacation pictures.
- adrienthebo 4y agoBefore we fetch the pitchforks and torches do we have any proof of this beyond a screenshot of a potential ToS violation?
- smegsicle 4y agohard to have proof beyond uploading it to your own google drive, but the number of broken links when looking up the video on regular google seems to indicate a real phenomemon
- iamleppert 4y agoGoogle has right by way of ToS not to host said files of the same name. User must agree with ToS & abide by ToS to access Google server.
- Markoff 4y agosure and we have right to call them for what they are
- xen2xen1 4y agoUsing Google Drive, or any online service, without client side encryption is increasingly dumb. The gatekeepers will force the gatekeepers to gatekeep.
- AdamJacobMuller 4y agoWhich Kanye interview? What did he say now...
- puppycodes 4y agosimple fix: https://github.com/duplicati/duplicati https://github.com/duplicati/duplicati