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Promoting strong family structures and communities. Supporting social norms that dissuade destructive behavior.

hotpotamus 4y ago
I wonder - which Conservative would you look to as a good example to model such behavior and lead the nation?
themitigating 4y ago
Really? promote or force? Can you name any policies or bills that Republicans have to make this happen? Can you prove that social norms have an effect on crime or homelessness? Are you claiming gay people are more likely to be criminals because they don't? Homeless: "Research shows that, compared to homeless families, homeless single adults have higher rates of serious mental illness, addiction disorders, and other severe health problems." How would social norms fix that? If an adult has a mental illness and can't afford care are you willing to have universal health care? You don't think if they had family that could take them in and they were willing they would do that? https://www.coalitionforthehomeless.org/basic-facts-about-homelessness-new-york-city/ https://www.coalitionforthehomeless.org/basic-facts-about-ho... ------------------------------------------------------ Here's some GOP news about social norms 1.https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/29/cawthorn-orgies-freedom-caucus- https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/29/cawthorn-orgies-fre... 00021548 2.https://people.com/politics/madison-cawthorn-wife-cristina-divorce-after-less-than-8-months-marriage-our-lives-changed/ https://people.com/politics/madison-cawthorn-wife-cristina-d... 3.https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/09/29/marjorie-taylor-greene-husband-files-divorce/10459286002/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/09/29/marj... 4.https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/07/jd-vance-violent-marriages https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/07/jd-vance-violent-mar... "GOP SENATE CANDIDATE J.D. VANCE: IF PEOPLE LOVE THEIR KIDS, THEY’LL STAY IN VIOLENT MARRIAGES" 5.https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/23/matt-gaetz-sex-trafficking-probe-prosecutors-recommend-against-charges.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/23/matt-gaetz-sex-trafficking-p... and you damn well I know go on
staticman2 4y ago
"Promoting strong family structures and communities" What does this actually mean in practice? This vague comment could mean anything from running for office, passing no laws and shouting "Hey don't get divorced" to passing laws making it illegal for anybody to get divorced. "Supporting social norms that dissuade destructive behavior" Nobody is for "destructive behavior". What is "destructive behavior" and what changes does this vague comment mean in practice? It could mean anything from passing no laws and shouting "don't do drugs" to dissuading homeliness by throwing all homeless people in jail.
kelnos 4y ago
> Promoting strong family structures and communities. That's not actionable. What does that even mean? What law or laws would you want proposed and passed that would accomplish that? Are there any political candidates that have a list of these laws, justifications -- with hard data -- why these sorts of laws will fix the stated problems, and a plan to get them put into place?

I wonder - which Conservative would you look to as a good example to model such behavior and lead the nation?

Really? promote or force? Can you name any policies or bills that Republicans have to make this happen? Can you prove that social norms have an effect on crime or homelessness? Are you claiming gay people are more likely to be criminals because they don't? Homeless: "Research shows that, compared to homeless families, homeless single adults have higher rates of serious mental illness, addiction disorders, and other severe health problems." How would social norms fix that? If an adult has a mental illness and can't afford care are you willing to have universal health care? You don't think if they had family that could take them in and they were willing they would do that? https://www.coalitionforthehomeless.org/basic-facts-about-homelessness-new-york-city/ https://www.coalitionforthehomeless.org/basic-facts-about-ho... ------------------------------------------------------ Here's some GOP news about social norms 1.https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/29/cawthorn-orgies-freedom-caucus- https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/29/cawthorn-orgies-fre... 00021548 2.https://people.com/politics/madison-cawthorn-wife-cristina-divorce-after-less-than-8-months-marriage-our-lives-changed/ https://people.com/politics/madison-cawthorn-wife-cristina-d... 3.https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/09/29/marjorie-taylor-greene-husband-files-divorce/10459286002/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/09/29/marj... 4.https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/07/jd-vance-violent-marriages https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/07/jd-vance-violent-mar... "GOP SENATE CANDIDATE J.D. VANCE: IF PEOPLE LOVE THEIR KIDS, THEY’LL STAY IN VIOLENT MARRIAGES" 5.https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/23/matt-gaetz-sex-trafficking-probe-prosecutors-recommend-against-charges.html https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/23/matt-gaetz-sex-trafficking-p... and you damn well I know go on

staticman2 4y ago

"Promoting strong family structures and communities" What does this actually mean in practice? This vague comment could mean anything from running for office, passing no laws and shouting "Hey don't get divorced" to passing laws making it illegal for anybody to get divorced. "Supporting social norms that dissuade destructive behavior" Nobody is for "destructive behavior". What is "destructive behavior" and what changes does this vague comment mean in practice? It could mean anything from passing no laws and shouting "don't do drugs" to dissuading homeliness by throwing all homeless people in jail.

kelnos 4y ago

> Promoting strong family structures and communities. That's not actionable. What does that even mean? What law or laws would you want proposed and passed that would accomplish that? Are there any political candidates that have a list of these laws, justifications -- with hard data -- why these sorts of laws will fix the stated problems, and a plan to get them put into place?