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>There's a huge difference between "I will not assist this entity" and "I will stop other people from assisting this entity". On one hand - exactly! This is wh

>There's a huge difference between "I will not assist this entity" and "I will stop other people from assisting this entity". On one hand - exactly! This is why I hate that Amazon stops me from using Parler, instead of not using it itself. On other hand - my kids faced much less obstacles than Parler: 1. They are adults, they could have purchased their own internet connection. 2. They are Russians, they know how to use VPN. Theoretically . They are just busy people, they could have coped, but would have some extra unnecessary troubles to overcome. And just a possibility of these small extra troubles caused a lot of worrying. (Parler failed to cope, they were too reliant on Amazon services or something, so unprofessional).

Dylan16807 4y ago
> On one hand - exactly! This is why I hate that Amazon stops me from using Parler, instead of not using it itself. You have twisted what I said past the breaking point. Amazon didn't stop anyone else from hosting or accessing Parler. They only refused to assist it themselves. > they know how to use VPN. Oh if VPN is allowed then it's significantly less of a problem. But you're still blocking it on the main network in a way that goes significantly beyond what Amazon did. Infrastructure should not block. I don't feel like AWS is monopolistic enough to count as infrastructure.
- MikePlacid 4y ago
  >They only refused to assist it themselves. How is taking money from me is assisting me? Amazon was not financing Parler, no providing it any discount, afaik. Me - I was assisting my kids by providing them Internet for free. Want Facebook? Pay for it yourselves. >But you're still blocking it on the main network in a way that goes significantly beyond what Amazon did. What is the "main network"? What I was blocking exactly? Call a provider, schedule an appointment, buy a WiFi switch... Yes, you could have missed an assignment or two, but nothing was blocked. Exactly like Parler - it eventually coped and moved, just missed that "laptop story" bandwagon. >I don't feel like AWS is monopolistic enough to count as infrastructure. I think it is, I think it is. Even more worrying (to me) - Amazon participated in a coordinated shutdown of Parler on app stores and hosting sites. That was definitely an abuse of my money they "assisted" me by taking it, so they are not getting it anymore. An attitude recommended to everybody.
  - Dylan16807 4y ago
    > How is taking money from me is assisting me? Amazon was not financing Parler, no providing it any discount, afaik. Getting paid to provide a service is still providing a service. If you don't like the word "assist" then whatever pick your own word. There's so many server providers that I don't think any of them should be obligated to do business. But ISPs and payment processors should be obligated, in my opinion. > Me - I was assisting my kids by providing them Internet for free. Want Facebook? Pay for it yourselves. > What is the "main network"? What I was blocking exactly? Call a provider, schedule an appointment, buy a WiFi switch... Yes, you could have missed an assignment or two, but nothing was blocked. This part is a bit complicated when we're talking about all adults, but normally the head of household is in charge of the utilities and other people aren't expected to get their own. So that makes it the main network. If you want to filter the network in this situation, it's not unjustified, but you're definitely standing in between the two parties rather than refusing to interact yourself. > Even more worrying (to me) - Amazon participated in a coordinated shutdown of Parler on app stores and hosting sites. The app store takedowns are significantly less appropriate than Amazon's shutdown given their monopoly power.

Dylan16807 4y ago

> On one hand - exactly! This is why I hate that Amazon stops me from using Parler, instead of not using it itself. You have twisted what I said past the breaking point. Amazon didn't stop anyone else from hosting or accessing Parler. They only refused to assist it themselves. > they know how to use VPN. Oh if VPN is allowed then it's significantly less of a problem. But you're still blocking it on the main network in a way that goes significantly beyond what Amazon did. Infrastructure should not block. I don't feel like AWS is monopolistic enough to count as infrastructure.

MikePlacid 4y ago
>They only refused to assist it themselves. How is taking money from me is assisting me? Amazon was not financing Parler, no providing it any discount, afaik. Me - I was assisting my kids by providing them Internet for free. Want Facebook? Pay for it yourselves. >But you're still blocking it on the main network in a way that goes significantly beyond what Amazon did. What is the "main network"? What I was blocking exactly? Call a provider, schedule an appointment, buy a WiFi switch... Yes, you could have missed an assignment or two, but nothing was blocked. Exactly like Parler - it eventually coped and moved, just missed that "laptop story" bandwagon. >I don't feel like AWS is monopolistic enough to count as infrastructure. I think it is, I think it is. Even more worrying (to me) - Amazon participated in a coordinated shutdown of Parler on app stores and hosting sites. That was definitely an abuse of my money they "assisted" me by taking it, so they are not getting it anymore. An attitude recommended to everybody.
- Dylan16807 4y ago
  > How is taking money from me is assisting me? Amazon was not financing Parler, no providing it any discount, afaik. Getting paid to provide a service is still providing a service. If you don't like the word "assist" then whatever pick your own word. There's so many server providers that I don't think any of them should be obligated to do business. But ISPs and payment processors should be obligated, in my opinion. > Me - I was assisting my kids by providing them Internet for free. Want Facebook? Pay for it yourselves. > What is the "main network"? What I was blocking exactly? Call a provider, schedule an appointment, buy a WiFi switch... Yes, you could have missed an assignment or two, but nothing was blocked. This part is a bit complicated when we're talking about all adults, but normally the head of household is in charge of the utilities and other people aren't expected to get their own. So that makes it the main network. If you want to filter the network in this situation, it's not unjustified, but you're definitely standing in between the two parties rather than refusing to interact yourself. > Even more worrying (to me) - Amazon participated in a coordinated shutdown of Parler on app stores and hosting sites. The app store takedowns are significantly less appropriate than Amazon's shutdown given their monopoly power.