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I found that just moving teams and dropping a load of baggage made a huge difference and a huge improvement. I also found that regular physical exercise outsid

I found that just moving teams and dropping a load of baggage made a huge difference and a huge improvement. I also found that regular physical exercise outside (running for me) is a game changer and totally allows your brain to disconnect. Finally, don't guilt trip yourself on your free time. There is nothing you "should" be doing on your spare time. Want to code? Fine. But do you really? Want to just veg out and watch Netflix? Also fine. Want to do some "junk food" gaming? Do it. Hang out with friends family and loved ones? I encourage that. Don't pressure yourself about open source projects or side hustles etc.

mritchie712 4y ago
+1 on exercise. I find HIIT better for breaking out of mental slump then most other forms of exercise. Sprints are best for me[0]. 0 - https://twitter.com/thisritchie/status/1426215815175680001?s=20&t=2yDTsgf2znwImkj5ONEP1g https://twitter.com/thisritchie/status/1426215815175680001?s...
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pelasaco 4y ago
+1 for sport and moving to another team.
alex-nt 4y ago
Similar for me, I noticed that the thing that lead to burnout was the politics around work, not the work itself. I changed companies and was happy till I got myself in the same political nightmare. If you find yourself in the same position, change the project/company, it will make a big difference for a while. Try to find a company with a healthy management/culture for a long term fix (if you want to spend more than 2-3y in one place), this is very hard thing to come by.
- spacemadness 4y ago
  I just assume there is no healthy management culture anywhere for American companies, especially not with MBAs continually poisoning the well. It’s finding what you can tolerate and still maintain your self worth and sanity.
thdespou 4y ago
+1 Start doing Callisthenics. 100 pushups, 100 pullups, 100 squats and 6 miles of run every day will help you immensely. Eliminate excuse's.
- Jgrubb 4y ago
  This is great advice, but a mile without stopping is a huge achievement if you haven't been a runner before.
  - dbsmith83 4y ago
    I could crank out a mile easily. At least a person can just run slowly. 100 pullups though? That just ain't happening
- winphone1974 4y ago
  This reads like a humble brag. You don't typically recommend "start exercising" then suggest a daily workout that even professional athletes wouldn't do
  - 8note 4y ago
    It is a joke -- it's the exercise regime used by one punch man to become stronger than a god
- earth_walker 4y ago
  As impressive as this regime is if you can do it, I'd recommend most people start a little slower and mix it up a little more - this kind of highly repetitive strain will burn out your body, just as the insane work schedule burnt you out. Start slow, throw in some yoga or tai chi and build up those joints and tendons - they don't increase in strength as quickly as muscles do.
- idrios 4y ago
  Doing this will make you strong enough to win any fight with just one punch, too
bornfreddy 4y ago
+1 on regular exercise - it makes a huge difference! We are not built to sit all day.
JKCalhoun 4y ago
Yeah, it's your coworkers/manager — exercise is a requirement (should be required by the company). Code is code, but if you have a cool manager and coworkers it can make it enjoyable. Particularly, for myself, I liked management that gave me autonomy, trusted me to write a framework without feeling the need to hand-hold. Exercise breaks (I started out running, switched to walking when I got older) were something I used to feel guilty about — going out for a run/walk in the middle of a work day. I always wanted to be the guy who always had their nose to the grindstone. As I got older (and more seniority, I suppose) I got over the guilt by just saying fuck 'em, health is more important. In fact though my productivity and ... code fidelity? ... likely improved. Often I left on the 20 minute walk with my head in a programming fog, returned with a succinct plan on how to proceed before the next programming hurdle reared its head.
massung 4y ago
Absolutely +1 on the exercise. For me it's road biking. I just hop on farm roads and ride for hours listening to Audible, podcasts, or nothing at all and just enjoy the scenery. Also - and I can't stress this enough - absolutely use your vacation time. And when you do, utterly disconnect from work. Turn "do not disturb" on your phone and other devices and not only don't answer work emails, don't even look at email, slack, etc. I agree with the comment about doing whatever it is that will relax you. Sometimes that is just binge watching the latest Netflix show. But, if you work from home, I've found that absolutely nothing beats GOING somewhere for your vacation time. I - and friends who also WFH - find that just being at home on vacation can still be emotionally draining. Even a 4 day weekend away from home doing something completely different can be very recharging. Even if I've come back to work and had to fix things others "broke" because they had to work around me not being there, I was much happier with that than if I did any work during my time away. And it also pointed out to me where documentation and knowledge was lacking or tools could be improved, etc. ;)
zokier 4y ago
> I also found that regular physical exercise outside (running for me) is a game changer and totally allows your brain to disconnect. > Finally, don't guilt trip yourself on your free time. There is nothing you "should" be doing on your spare time. Don't you think these two pieces of advice are conflicting?
- w0m 4y ago
  'I need to be reading docs on the latest <X> release to determine if we need to upgrade...' is moreso what he meant I think.
pretendscholar 4y ago
Weightlifting is the best anti-depressant I've ever tried.

mritchie712 4y ago

+1 on exercise. I find HIIT better for breaking out of mental slump then most other forms of exercise. Sprints are best for me[0]. 0 - https://twitter.com/thisritchie/status/1426215815175680001?s=20&t=2yDTsgf2znwImkj5ONEP1g https://twitter.com/thisritchie/status/1426215815175680001?s...

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pelasaco 4y ago

+1 for sport and moving to another team.

alex-nt 4y ago

Similar for me, I noticed that the thing that lead to burnout was the politics around work, not the work itself. I changed companies and was happy till I got myself in the same political nightmare. If you find yourself in the same position, change the project/company, it will make a big difference for a while. Try to find a company with a healthy management/culture for a long term fix (if you want to spend more than 2-3y in one place), this is very hard thing to come by.

spacemadness 4y ago
I just assume there is no healthy management culture anywhere for American companies, especially not with MBAs continually poisoning the well. It’s finding what you can tolerate and still maintain your self worth and sanity.

thdespou 4y ago

+1 Start doing Callisthenics. 100 pushups, 100 pullups, 100 squats and 6 miles of run every day will help you immensely. Eliminate excuse's.

Jgrubb 4y ago
This is great advice, but a mile without stopping is a huge achievement if you haven't been a runner before.
- dbsmith83 4y ago
  I could crank out a mile easily. At least a person can just run slowly. 100 pullups though? That just ain't happening
winphone1974 4y ago
This reads like a humble brag. You don't typically recommend "start exercising" then suggest a daily workout that even professional athletes wouldn't do
- 8note 4y ago
  It is a joke -- it's the exercise regime used by one punch man to become stronger than a god
earth_walker 4y ago
As impressive as this regime is if you can do it, I'd recommend most people start a little slower and mix it up a little more - this kind of highly repetitive strain will burn out your body, just as the insane work schedule burnt you out. Start slow, throw in some yoga or tai chi and build up those joints and tendons - they don't increase in strength as quickly as muscles do.
idrios 4y ago
Doing this will make you strong enough to win any fight with just one punch, too

bornfreddy 4y ago

+1 on regular exercise - it makes a huge difference! We are not built to sit all day.

JKCalhoun 4y ago

Yeah, it's your coworkers/manager — exercise is a requirement (should be required by the company). Code is code, but if you have a cool manager and coworkers it can make it enjoyable. Particularly, for myself, I liked management that gave me autonomy, trusted me to write a framework without feeling the need to hand-hold. Exercise breaks (I started out running, switched to walking when I got older) were something I used to feel guilty about — going out for a run/walk in the middle of a work day. I always wanted to be the guy who always had their nose to the grindstone. As I got older (and more seniority, I suppose) I got over the guilt by just saying fuck 'em, health is more important. In fact though my productivity and ... code fidelity? ... likely improved. Often I left on the 20 minute walk with my head in a programming fog, returned with a succinct plan on how to proceed before the next programming hurdle reared its head.

massung 4y ago

Absolutely +1 on the exercise. For me it's road biking. I just hop on farm roads and ride for hours listening to Audible, podcasts, or nothing at all and just enjoy the scenery. Also - and I can't stress this enough - absolutely use your vacation time. And when you do, utterly disconnect from work. Turn "do not disturb" on your phone and other devices and not only don't answer work emails, don't even look at email, slack, etc. I agree with the comment about doing whatever it is that will relax you. Sometimes that is just binge watching the latest Netflix show. But, if you work from home, I've found that absolutely nothing beats GOING somewhere for your vacation time. I - and friends who also WFH - find that just being at home on vacation can still be emotionally draining. Even a 4 day weekend away from home doing something completely different can be very recharging. Even if I've come back to work and had to fix things others "broke" because they had to work around me not being there, I was much happier with that than if I did any work during my time away. And it also pointed out to me where documentation and knowledge was lacking or tools could be improved, etc. ;)

zokier 4y ago

> I also found that regular physical exercise outside (running for me) is a game changer and totally allows your brain to disconnect. > Finally, don't guilt trip yourself on your free time. There is nothing you "should" be doing on your spare time. Don't you think these two pieces of advice are conflicting?

w0m 4y ago
'I need to be reading docs on the latest <X> release to determine if we need to upgrade...' is moreso what he meant I think.

pretendscholar 4y ago

Weightlifting is the best anti-depressant I've ever tried.