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Very interested to know what your solution is for a longer-supported good tablet, as I’m unaware of one.

gambiting 4y ago
There isn't one. iPads are the longest supported tablets out there. So I guess they are saying that they are so upset about this that they will stop using tablets altogether, which I suppose is a valid, if weird choice.
- smoldesu 4y ago
  If you want to be pedantic, the Microsoft Surface will have Linux Kernel support long after the iPad has become a derelict memory in the minds of Generation Z.
  - gambiting 4y ago
    But that's not official support. That's like saying that my 10 year old Nexus 7 can still be flashed with latest versions of custom ROMs so it's the longest supported tablet out there.
    - smoldesu 4y ago
      Hey, works for me. I flash a lot of my devices with custom ROMs after EOL, and they work great.
    - ta8903 4y ago
      It's a computational device, it's normal to be able to install whatever OS you want on it. Apple is the outlier here.
      - gambiting 4y ago
        I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm just pointing out that when it comes to official support, Apple provides the longest out of all manufacturers.
    - jamesgeck0 4y ago
      Mine can't. The first generation entry-level Nexus 7 used a cheap storage chip that wore out within two or three years; it's completely unusable.
  - Wowfunhappy 4y ago
    I was actually thinking that would probably apply to Windows support as well!
    - coder543 4y ago
      not fully: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/which-surface-devices-can-be-upgraded-to-windows-11-76c3c125-82e0-4d1e-9550-12ed09f9058e https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/which-surface-de...
      - Wowfunhappy 4y ago
        Windows 10 will be supported until 2025 though. (And to be honest, I'll be surprised if Microsoft doesn't extend that given Windows 11's system requirements.)
pxeboot 4y ago
The original Surface Pro is still getting updates.
- coder543 4y ago
  I think you forgot to put an asterisk there. Microsoft doesn't fully support such old devices anymore: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/which-surface-devices-can-be-upgraded-to-windows-11-76c3c125-82e0-4d1e-9550-12ed09f9058e https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/which-surface-de... It might still be getting some updates, for now, but it can't be updated to the latest version of Windows. I guess you could install Linux on it.
  - brewdad 4y ago
    Last I checked (admittedly about a year ago) there was very poor Linux support for Surface tablets. Basic things like the camera and wifi, on some devices, simply don't work in Linux. My Surface Go can't upgrade to Windows 11 but is still getting Windows 10 updates. By the tine those stop, it will pretty much be trash. As it stands today, using it is painfully slow and it's portability is really about the only thing going for it. 4GB of RAM and a grossly underclocked CPU will do that.
pjerem 4y ago
Well, standardizing or documenting the hardware ? Making the boot loader unlockable ? In other worlds, doing what PCs managed to do during more than three decades ? I don’t care that Apple stops to support my iPad after X years. We can’t blame them for stopping to support old enough hardware. But we can blame them for making this hardware locked in such a way that you cannot run what you want on a device you fully own and that they unilaterally decided isn’t worth using anymore.
- scarface74 4y ago
  You’re using a PC from 1992?
  - layer8 4y ago
    Some people do.
    - scarface74 4y ago
      I seriously doubt it.
    - crazygringo 4y ago
      With a 486 processor? I don't think so. The only way they're using it is the same way they're using a Commodore 64, as an antique.
      - layer8 4y ago
        Yes, they use it for retro gaming, and people write new software like web browsers for the C64. It would be nice to be able to repurpose old tablets in a similar fashion.
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      - ihatepython 4y ago

There isn't one. iPads are the longest supported tablets out there. So I guess they are saying that they are so upset about this that they will stop using tablets altogether, which I suppose is a valid, if weird choice.

smoldesu 4y ago
If you want to be pedantic, the Microsoft Surface will have Linux Kernel support long after the iPad has become a derelict memory in the minds of Generation Z.
- gambiting 4y ago
  But that's not official support. That's like saying that my 10 year old Nexus 7 can still be flashed with latest versions of custom ROMs so it's the longest supported tablet out there.
  - smoldesu 4y ago
    Hey, works for me. I flash a lot of my devices with custom ROMs after EOL, and they work great.
  - ta8903 4y ago
    It's a computational device, it's normal to be able to install whatever OS you want on it. Apple is the outlier here.
    - gambiting 4y ago
      I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm just pointing out that when it comes to official support, Apple provides the longest out of all manufacturers.
  - jamesgeck0 4y ago
    Mine can't. The first generation entry-level Nexus 7 used a cheap storage chip that wore out within two or three years; it's completely unusable.
- Wowfunhappy 4y ago
  I was actually thinking that would probably apply to Windows support as well!
  - coder543 4y ago
    not fully: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/which-surface-devices-can-be-upgraded-to-windows-11-76c3c125-82e0-4d1e-9550-12ed09f9058e https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/which-surface-de...
    - Wowfunhappy 4y ago
      Windows 10 will be supported until 2025 though. (And to be honest, I'll be surprised if Microsoft doesn't extend that given Windows 11's system requirements.)

pxeboot 4y ago

The original Surface Pro is still getting updates.

coder543 4y ago
I think you forgot to put an asterisk there. Microsoft doesn't fully support such old devices anymore: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/which-surface-devices-can-be-upgraded-to-windows-11-76c3c125-82e0-4d1e-9550-12ed09f9058e https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/which-surface-de... It might still be getting some updates, for now, but it can't be updated to the latest version of Windows. I guess you could install Linux on it.
- brewdad 4y ago
  Last I checked (admittedly about a year ago) there was very poor Linux support for Surface tablets. Basic things like the camera and wifi, on some devices, simply don't work in Linux. My Surface Go can't upgrade to Windows 11 but is still getting Windows 10 updates. By the tine those stop, it will pretty much be trash. As it stands today, using it is painfully slow and it's portability is really about the only thing going for it. 4GB of RAM and a grossly underclocked CPU will do that.

pjerem 4y ago

Well, standardizing or documenting the hardware ? Making the boot loader unlockable ? In other worlds, doing what PCs managed to do during more than three decades ? I don’t care that Apple stops to support my iPad after X years. We can’t blame them for stopping to support old enough hardware. But we can blame them for making this hardware locked in such a way that you cannot run what you want on a device you fully own and that they unilaterally decided isn’t worth using anymore.

scarface74 4y ago
You’re using a PC from 1992?
- layer8 4y ago
  Some people do.
  - scarface74 4y ago
    I seriously doubt it.
  - crazygringo 4y ago
    With a 486 processor? I don't think so. The only way they're using it is the same way they're using a Commodore 64, as an antique.
    - layer8 4y ago
      Yes, they use it for retro gaming, and people write new software like web browsers for the C64. It would be nice to be able to repurpose old tablets in a similar fashion.
      - deleted 4y ago
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    - ihatepython 4y ago