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Jira new pricing tier to –$765,432,091.03 per user / month
- simonswords82 4y agoIf you can't get your pricing page right you have to wonder what else is a mess under the hood at Atlassian
- HelloNurse 4y agoUnder the hood they might prefer to do accounting in floating point. BigDecimal isn't meant for true programmers.
- cube00 4y agoMy life got infinitely easier once I learnt the financial world all use integers in cents to do their money calculations.
- quicklime 4y agoNot all, many situations make use of prices and calculations in the fractions of a cent. For example forex trading, or even gas stations.
- pixiemaster 4y agostill those probably are treated as Integer of a millionth cent
- singingfish 4y agoGenerally decicents (10 decicents = 1 cent) makes all normal currency calculations much easier/reliable. If you need lower resolution use millicents or microcents
- pedrovhb 4y agoIs that the case? I was under the impression that Decimals were used in financial contexts because (besides preventing floating point error) you can define how to handle things such as rounding behavior. For instance, at least in Python, 3//2 == 1 while -3//2 == -2; integer division is rounded down, and not towards zero as one may expect. Decimal lets you pick how you want that to go.
- vesinisa 4y agoWould someone please think of the performanz!
- raverbashing 4y agoAh yes when the system thinks you owe them 0.0000000001
- tgv 4y agoI'm not a big Atlassian hater, but the other day I spent 7 hours trying to fix an account migration error. Two users had access rights and all, but couldn't see any repository. I ended up deleting them and adding other accounts. It was ... odd. Oh, and there's that thing of joining an empty workspace. And that other thing. Yes, there's quite a bit wrong under the hood. Feels like teams working on small features that don't work well together (either the teams or the implementation).
- snadal 4y agoIt looks like Jira is testing paying user acquisition. They currently pay $765 million for each new Standard user and $1,506M in the Premium Plan :-D https://ibb.co/BP04ZNg https://ibb.co/BP04ZNg Really, I wonder where these numbers come from...
- Kelteseth 4y agoMaybe has something to do with Monthly/Annual conversion? Because switching to Annual shows correct values.
- eps 4y agoIt's a 10x discounted option by the looks of it. They must be A/B testing. https://imgur.com/xGaepnA https://imgur.com/xGaepnA
- sascha_sl 4y agothey didn't exclude 0-10 users (which is free) from their linear volume discount, so the discount went into the negative a bit
- Gibbon1 4y agoI'm going to hold out for more
- Philip-J-Fry 4y agoIt seems they've finally come to the realisation they're gonna have to start paying people to use their software.
- Gametroleum 4y agoHumor aside. It is great that they charge money, sometimes big money for their products & services, instead maybe running ads?
- fdfaz 4y agoI can block ads with ublock origin, I can't block credit card charges from my bank account - well I can but then I can't use the service any longer.
- chii 4y agoit's because these products aren't consumer products - they are business products. You often won't find business products run off ads, because business products have a value proposition which is positive, and thus the business would pay for it.
- drcongo 4y agoThey'd need to pay me more than that.
- anotherhue 4y ago“JIRA acknowledges that it is a net negative to humanity”
- Maxburn 4y agoSo much hate everywhere for this product, I'm glad I don't use it.
- tommek4077 4y agoMost people hate the enforced workflows from their employers. But as every modern web"app" the site is also slow as hell.
- Maxburn 4y agoOK I recognize that, currently dealing with a salesforce product that is painfully slow. Seems the company that purchased that solution can't do anything about it.
- stinos 4y agoI'd say first try for yourself instead. I have, for over a decade, and while it's pretty slow and has some annoyances: it's not quite bad enough to hate for me, the alternatives aren't that much better and mostly have other annoyances, and it can get the job done.
- oaiey 4y agoit is actually one of the better ones in the field.
- heywire 4y agoGet stuck using Mercury, err, HP, umm, I mean Micro Focus Quality Center for 15+ years and JIRA will feel like a breath of fresh air.
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- gizajob 4y agoI wonder if any legal minds here could comment on whether they owe me $1.5billion if I sign up for this. Technically it's an offer with consideration that I'm accepting, and happy to pay $-1.5billion for this service, even though I know that trying to get this to stand up in court would be a fools errand.
- wodenokoto 4y agoThere are all sorts of things in law about “reasonable persons” and contracts needs to be beneficial for both parties. I am sure this would not be binding.
- soco 4y agoHow about the current price of 0$/month? At least for the standard tier?
- snadal 4y agoI'd bet that the current price of $0/month would be valid in court. However they did not state for how long is offer valid, so they will be able to change pricing tiers later.
- tialaramex 4y agoAnd Mistake. Mistake is totally a thing in contract law. You can't void for Unilateral mistake unless it's egregious, but this is egregious.
- imroot 4y agoIf you've ever used JIRA, I'd say getting paid to use their software is beneficial for both parties...
- wodenokoto 4y agoI think everyone who uses Jira gets paid to do so and their employer pays both atlassian and the user …
- seydor 4y agoWow inflation really popped in a week!
- farseer 4y ago-$7,654,320,980 for 1 user -$3,827,160,486.13 for 2 users -$1,530,864,189.80 for 5 users -$765,432,091.03 for 10 users
- HelloNurse 4y agoThe premium tier is even worse: Standard -$765,432,091.03 per user (average) -$7,654,320,910.25 a month Premium -$1,506,172,824.28 per user (average) -$15,061,728,242.75 a month
- bubblehack3r 4y agoJust in case this disappears: https://i.imgur.com/KuYKeXY.jpg https://i.imgur.com/KuYKeXY.jpg
- Maxburn 4y agoIt's still up for me, BIG version; https://i.imgur.com/K1eBGgH.png https://i.imgur.com/K1eBGgH.png
- freeCandy 4y agoShows zero now: https://i.imgur.com/Lgp0zpz.png https://i.imgur.com/Lgp0zpz.png
- utucuro 4y agoAnnual pricing still shows this for Premium: $1,525 a year User tier: -987654320 - 10 Negative users anyone?
- sva_ 4y agoInteresting that it is the sequence from 2-9 backwards
- mysterydip 4y agoSounds like test data gone awry
- dwighttk 4y agoWould be fiscally insane not to get premium.
- HelloNurse 4y agoOn an annual basis, negative users are expected: Standard $790 a year User tier: 0 - 10 Premium $1,525 a year User tier: -987654320 - 10
- mkl95 4y agoI hate the smell of Atlassian in the morning. It smells like failure.
- kuroguro 4y agoCurrently getting $0/mo for all plans lol I guess someone is panicking and trying to fix it live
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- snadal 4y agoMe too https://ibb.co/t8t43fT https://ibb.co/t8t43fT I guess someone at Jira is having a bad day.
- chrismorgan 4y agoNah, that’s just the price for up to ten users. Bump it to eleven and Standard and Premium rise above $0.
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- kuroguro 4y agoPretty sure the 10 free users should be only for free tier. Here's their pricing from a bit ago: https://archive.ph/1AuQf https://archive.ph/1AuQf
- jbarrs 4y agoAlas this has now been fixed
- croutonwagon 4y ago"Fix it live" or "Fix it in production" is basically JIRA's entire MO. I get that move fast and break things is supposed to, in the end, ensure better code, better debugging and ultimately a better experience. But the way JIRA does it (And a few other companies) is, quite frankly, painful to see, even on the sidelines. Like that time they just straight locked folks out of their tenants if their tenant name started with number or something. They do thing, often without any aux plans to revert. Its pants on head crazy imho. How key executives listed in their stock portfolio pages didnt lose their jobs over that is beyond me. https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/atlassian-jira-outage-week https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/atlassian-jira-outage-wee... https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/technology/ongoing-atlassian-jira-confluence-outage-affects-customers-worldwide/ https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/technology/ongoing-atl...
- Overtonwindow 4y agoIt’s an abysmal software suite that is unnecessarily complicated with inadequate documentation.
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- RedShift1 4y agoIf this is a remnant of a template they made, those numbers seem very odd for that purpose...
- mudream4869 4y agoSeens to be fixed QQ
- benrutter 4y agoOK, so this is hilarious, buy I'd be really interested to know where that figure comes from? (obviously an error since its not pulling in the normal cost, but what's it pulling in instead?)
- ricardobayes 4y agoSome kind of overflow after some discount being applied?
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- tyingq 4y agoGuessing it's some variation of thinking javascript's floating point works for money. Like, in JS: 0.3 - 0.2 - 0.1 === -2.7755575615628914e-17 // true
- onion2k 4y agoIt's still not worth it.
- snadal 4y agoYeah. This price change also is applied to Confluence :D https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33245254 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33245254
- me551ah 4y agoSo if I had signed up when this bug was live, I would have received money in my account?
- rroot 4y agoImagine if this was an intentional publicity stunt. Atlassian would have thought they'd get a free press but instead they're rightly getting ripped apart with sarcastic references to their own product.
- joshxyz 4y agofinally something budget friendly for the team
- Dionakra 4y agoNow someone should open a Jira ticket, refine the task, estimate it, define its priority, push it to the backlog and maybe the next sprint (if it is important enough), someone will be assigned, checking all the DoD and DoR boxes, submit a PR, getting it approved and then it will be fixed.
- Ensorceled 4y agoI wish it was that easy! You are missing the 'triage' state after the ticket is opened, the 'review' state after priority, and the 'approval required' state after moving to backlog, sprint and fixed.
- girvo 4y agoPlus all the other steps in the custom workflow some upper management spent weeks putting in place without speaking to the actual workers who need to follow it.
- replyifuagree 4y agoYeah, this is the real problem. Allowing non-technical managers to dabble in the SDLC is Jira's greatest sin.
- girvo 4y agoExactly. Though I'm certain that is also partly responsible for Jira's success in terms of B2B market penetration...
- Fire-Dragon-DoL 4y agoThis is impossible. It takes 247 years to open the form to fill the details for the ticket.
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