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Now it’s over, let’s come out and say it: The Rings of Power was a stinker

15 points by BerislavLopac 4y ago

bitwize 4y ago
Aka "It's OK to say it stinks now that the 'toxic fandom' narrative can't be used to suppress bad word-of-mouth".
Rallen89 4y ago
haven't seen it myself but I have seen differing opinions on it, is this just riding the trend of hate or is it really just mediocre
- kjs3 4y ago
  I watched it. Disclaimer: I have actually read the Silmarillion where the material comes from (decades ago), as well as the other books and seen all the movies (even that cartoon one). I wanted to like it; I'm sure some people did. It's very pretty; the set and cgi folks deserve cudos and awards. The writing is...not so good. It varies from occasionally cringeworthy to mostly bland, but never inspiring. The characters are mostly unmemorable (imo the main Dwarven characters are the only ones I look forward to). They even managed to make orcs just meh. The story hasn't gelled to any extent for me, maybe that's for the next season. Indeed the whole thing seemed to be "let's carpet bomb the audience with new characters and disparate events for 8 episodes...and we'll figure out what to do with it next season". Or maybe it's because the Silmarillion is really not material that will ever translate well to film. And we know how all the bog story archs turn out in the end, so there's not even much anticipation for the next bit of it.
  - kadoban 4y ago
    Pretty sure it's not based on the Silmarillion because they don't have the rights.
    - kjs3 4y ago
      That's true. But since it's taking the same setting, places, stories & characters, I'm pretty sure it's fair to say 'based on'. All changed to more or less degrees like all adaptations. I guess they're skirting the rights issue by never actually (that I noticed) mentioning the Silmarils. YMMV.
joanfihu 4y ago
I liked the last few episodes to be honest. The lore is good. The visuals are the best I’ve seen in a TV show. I’m happy there is S2 still being produced. I really wish toxic fans were just quiet so the rest of us can enjoy.
BerislavLopac 4y ago
My personal conclusion about the first season is like this: It was a tolerable fantasy series, which is always welcome. Its writing and acting were uneven, ranging from high quality to really bad, and its visuals are for the most part spectacular and generally the best part of the series. My main problem with it is are all the names and general concepts lifted straight from Tolkien's works, set in a story that bears not even a superficial resemblance to what he wrote. So I see it as an independent, and not very original, fantasy work of its own, rather than an adaptation.

15 points by BerislavLopac 4y ago

Aka "It's OK to say it stinks now that the 'toxic fandom' narrative can't be used to suppress bad word-of-mouth".

haven't seen it myself but I have seen differing opinions on it, is this just riding the trend of hate or is it really just mediocre

kjs3 4y ago
I watched it. Disclaimer: I have actually read the Silmarillion where the material comes from (decades ago), as well as the other books and seen all the movies (even that cartoon one). I wanted to like it; I'm sure some people did. It's very pretty; the set and cgi folks deserve cudos and awards. The writing is...not so good. It varies from occasionally cringeworthy to mostly bland, but never inspiring. The characters are mostly unmemorable (imo the main Dwarven characters are the only ones I look forward to). They even managed to make orcs just meh. The story hasn't gelled to any extent for me, maybe that's for the next season. Indeed the whole thing seemed to be "let's carpet bomb the audience with new characters and disparate events for 8 episodes...and we'll figure out what to do with it next season". Or maybe it's because the Silmarillion is really not material that will ever translate well to film. And we know how all the bog story archs turn out in the end, so there's not even much anticipation for the next bit of it.
- kadoban 4y ago
  Pretty sure it's not based on the Silmarillion because they don't have the rights.
  - kjs3 4y ago
    That's true. But since it's taking the same setting, places, stories & characters, I'm pretty sure it's fair to say 'based on'. All changed to more or less degrees like all adaptations. I guess they're skirting the rights issue by never actually (that I noticed) mentioning the Silmarils. YMMV.

joanfihu 4y ago

I liked the last few episodes to be honest. The lore is good. The visuals are the best I’ve seen in a TV show. I’m happy there is S2 still being produced. I really wish toxic fans were just quiet so the rest of us can enjoy.

BerislavLopac 4y ago

My personal conclusion about the first season is like this: It was a tolerable fantasy series, which is always welcome. Its writing and acting were uneven, ranging from high quality to really bad, and its visuals are for the most part spectacular and generally the best part of the series. My main problem with it is are all the names and general concepts lifted straight from Tolkien's works, set in a story that bears not even a superficial resemblance to what he wrote. So I see it as an independent, and not very original, fantasy work of its own, rather than an adaptation.