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Shame that they don't seem to support the European Self-Sovereign Identity Framework for registration: https://essif-lab.eu/ https://essif-lab.eu/ I am really

by brabel 4y ago

Shame that they don't seem to support the European Self-Sovereign Identity Framework for registration: https://essif-lab.eu/ https://essif-lab.eu/ I am really hoping that this will take off and soon all Europeans will be able to prove they have the right to get services without having to reveal their full identity... and I think this is a great framework for registration to services like this as well.

kubota 4y ago
This is very interesting - I'd bet you'd get to the front page of hackernews by sharing this link with us as its own post.
RamblingCTO 4y ago
This will probably be a corporate-circlejerc like GAIA-X again. The website is just bad at explaining what's going on. It reads like an academic paper and is not user friendly at all. Do you have any experience with that?
- jeroenhd 4y ago
  Looks like a bunch of cryptocurrency/blockchain people scooping up government funds: https://essif-lab.github.io/framework/docs/ssi-standards https://essif-lab.github.io/framework/docs/ssi-standards This could be the real start of web3, but I'm pessimistic about the way most of the homepage is talking about funding more than about the problem being solved. The rest reads like a whitepaper. Maybe blockchains are the right technology here (though I doubt it) but the people writing the documentation were the wrong people for the job.
  - RamblingCTO 4y ago
    > Looks like a bunch of cryptocurrency/blockchain people scooping up government funds Which sounds like every EU funded project I know. That's the state of state-driven tech innovation here, very nice. Happy to pay taxes for that sh*t ...
- brabel 4y ago
  I agree the website is very bad, currently. Maybe this page has better resources: https://essif-lab.github.io/framework/docs/ssi-standards https://essif-lab.github.io/framework/docs/ssi-standards But there's quite a lot going on... the work on SSI is being coordinated by the W3C Working Group on VCs (Verifiable Credentials) and DIDs (Decentralized Identifiers). https://www.w3.org/community/credentials/ https://www.w3.org/community/credentials/ https://www.w3.org/2019/did-wg/ https://www.w3.org/2019/did-wg/ I don't know of any real-world usage yet, despite the fact that the specifications required for things to work and be used by real people already exist, and that there's a lot of DID methods (over 80 last I checked) registered, but as people have noted, most are based on blockchain (but not all... there's stuff like the peer, git, jwk DID methods that do not require blockchain)... but I have to say that, in this particular instance, blockchains may actually be a proper solution for a real problem (that of looking up public keys and metadata for entities/users in a distributed, highly-reliable manner). https://www.w3.org/TR/did-spec-registries/#did-methods https://www.w3.org/TR/did-spec-registries/#did-methods If you want to look for related stuff, look for things that users would need to have to use SSI, like DID wallets... Some random examples I found by quickly searching: https://www.abtwallet.io/en/ https://www.abtwallet.io/en/ https://www.didwallet.io/ https://www.didwallet.io/ https://igrant.io/ https://igrant.io/ https://www.dock.io/dock-wallet-app https://www.dock.io/dock-wallet-app https://identity.foundation/ion/ https://identity.foundation/ion/ The OpenID Connect Standard is being extended to support self-issued OIDC (SIOP) which allows OIDC to interact with SSI constructs: https://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-self-issued-v2-1_0.html https://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-self-issued-v2-1_0.h... So, yeah, there's a lot of stuff being created around SSI, but admitedly, almost nothing practical yet... Hence why I was hoping to find something where this work could be very helpful, like logging into Codeberg :)
jeroenhd 4y ago
The premise looks very interesting but I can't tell if this exists or if it's a call for contributions for a broad idea. Based on the home page I'd assume this system is not net implemented, let alone functional. Pages are either full of calls for projects or buzzwords for existing projects. I think I've found the page containing implementation details but it all seems to be crypto/blockchain stuff. Disappointing, was hoping for something better.
Aeolun 4y ago
This seems like a great way to distribute government funds to your friends. Because nobody else could possibly understand what is on this page.

by brabel 4y ago

kubota 4y ago

This is very interesting - I'd bet you'd get to the front page of hackernews by sharing this link with us as its own post.

RamblingCTO 4y ago

This will probably be a corporate-circlejerc like GAIA-X again. The website is just bad at explaining what's going on. It reads like an academic paper and is not user friendly at all. Do you have any experience with that?

jeroenhd 4y ago
Looks like a bunch of cryptocurrency/blockchain people scooping up government funds: https://essif-lab.github.io/framework/docs/ssi-standards https://essif-lab.github.io/framework/docs/ssi-standards This could be the real start of web3, but I'm pessimistic about the way most of the homepage is talking about funding more than about the problem being solved. The rest reads like a whitepaper. Maybe blockchains are the right technology here (though I doubt it) but the people writing the documentation were the wrong people for the job.
- RamblingCTO 4y ago
  > Looks like a bunch of cryptocurrency/blockchain people scooping up government funds Which sounds like every EU funded project I know. That's the state of state-driven tech innovation here, very nice. Happy to pay taxes for that sh*t ...
brabel 4y ago
I agree the website is very bad, currently. Maybe this page has better resources: https://essif-lab.github.io/framework/docs/ssi-standards https://essif-lab.github.io/framework/docs/ssi-standards But there's quite a lot going on... the work on SSI is being coordinated by the W3C Working Group on VCs (Verifiable Credentials) and DIDs (Decentralized Identifiers). https://www.w3.org/community/credentials/ https://www.w3.org/community/credentials/ https://www.w3.org/2019/did-wg/ https://www.w3.org/2019/did-wg/ I don't know of any real-world usage yet, despite the fact that the specifications required for things to work and be used by real people already exist, and that there's a lot of DID methods (over 80 last I checked) registered, but as people have noted, most are based on blockchain (but not all... there's stuff like the peer, git, jwk DID methods that do not require blockchain)... but I have to say that, in this particular instance, blockchains may actually be a proper solution for a real problem (that of looking up public keys and metadata for entities/users in a distributed, highly-reliable manner). https://www.w3.org/TR/did-spec-registries/#did-methods https://www.w3.org/TR/did-spec-registries/#did-methods If you want to look for related stuff, look for things that users would need to have to use SSI, like DID wallets... Some random examples I found by quickly searching: https://www.abtwallet.io/en/ https://www.abtwallet.io/en/ https://www.didwallet.io/ https://www.didwallet.io/ https://igrant.io/ https://igrant.io/ https://www.dock.io/dock-wallet-app https://www.dock.io/dock-wallet-app https://identity.foundation/ion/ https://identity.foundation/ion/ The OpenID Connect Standard is being extended to support self-issued OIDC (SIOP) which allows OIDC to interact with SSI constructs: https://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-self-issued-v2-1_0.html https://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-self-issued-v2-1_0.h... So, yeah, there's a lot of stuff being created around SSI, but admitedly, almost nothing practical yet... Hence why I was hoping to find something where this work could be very helpful, like logging into Codeberg :)

jeroenhd 4y ago

The premise looks very interesting but I can't tell if this exists or if it's a call for contributions for a broad idea. Based on the home page I'd assume this system is not net implemented, let alone functional. Pages are either full of calls for projects or buzzwords for existing projects. I think I've found the page containing implementation details but it all seems to be crypto/blockchain stuff. Disappointing, was hoping for something better.

Aeolun 4y ago

This seems like a great way to distribute government funds to your friends. Because nobody else could possibly understand what is on this page.