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I see the symbol for saving is still a floppy disk.

by sgt 4y ago

CamperBob2 4y ago
What should it be? Serious question.
- MerelyMortal 4y ago
  Maybe we should ask one of those AI image generators? (maybe an arrow into a folder, but then some new computer users don't even know what folders are because their systems don't show them to the users) I'm also not opposed to keeping it a floppy disk. It's okay to use outdated references for things. And it's funny to hear a kid say you have a 3d-printed save icon.
  - CamperBob2 4y ago
    DALL-E 2 yields https://i.imgur.com/B9kCRnt.png https://i.imgur.com/B9kCRnt.png for the prompt "a graphical icon used to represent saving a file". Not sure it's an improvement over the floppy disk. Other variations on the prompt tend to yield things like CF cards. Although I guess the file folder with the arrow isn't too bad. (For contemporary values of "Isn't too bad" equal to "Holy shit, this thing is starting to understand abstract concepts" a few months ago.)
- meltedcapacitor 4y ago
  Nothing? Autosave + undo supercedes "save". The "save" operation needed to be explicit on 1980s computers because nursing the floppy controller was a stop the world operation -- a long solved problem.
  - tjoff 4y ago
    No thanks. I want writing to "disk" to be explicit. Automatically save a copy that you can recover from, sure, but let the user decide when and if to save it for real.
    - MerelyMortal 4y ago
      Or at the very least show a list of save points with user-defined points highlighted.
  - badsectoracula 4y ago
    Autosave is an awful idea, making modifications to existing files, creating new files "in memory" that i throw away (i.e. not saving them at all) and of course making many modifications that i decide later to save under a different name are things i do all the time with all sorts of programs. If i want something to be stored in permanent storage i explicitly request that with the Save or Save As functionality. That is not to say that an autosave functionality is always useless, it can be useful -e.g.- for recovering from program failures, but not as a replacement for the explicit Save/Save As functionality.
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  - jimjimjim 4y ago
    How would you save to another location? How do you save something to a usb stick? How do you save as to a different format while keeping the original?
  - CamperBob2 4y ago
    Right idea but you're about 100 years ahead of your time. For now, thanks but no thanks.
- RedShift1 4y ago
  Perhaps we should work from a different angle, we have become so used to the word "save" that we don't think about calling it something else. How does somebody who has never heard the word "save" describe saving a file? Maybe think more in the direction of "remember" or "memorize"...
  - shadowofneptune 4y ago
    Could someone who has a basic understanding of English go even two days without hearing the words 'save' or 'lost?' It seems easy enough to understand.
  - sgt 4y ago
    An icon of a brain then?
- mickael-kerjean 4y ago
  C-x C-s
alxlaz 4y ago
What else would it be?
TobTobXX 4y ago
Q: What do the floppy disk and Jesus have in common? A: They died to become the icon of saving.
- nnopepe 4y ago
Minor49er 4y ago
What do you think about the icon for a new file ("file-plus") being a sheet of paper?
badsectoracula 4y ago
At that point not being a floppy disk would be confusing - when the Tango Icon Theme was used widely, it had some weird "arrow to a box" (i think it was supposed to be a hard disk) as the save symbol and despite using such programs for years it threw me off very often when trying to find and hit the save button in a toolbar. Actually it still does since some applications still use the icon set.
duxup 4y ago
If it was anything else I would probably be confused.
marcosdumay 4y ago
And our "A" letter still comes from an stylized ox, even though I'm not aware of any modern language where the animal name starts with it. That's not reason to drop any of them.

I see the symbol for saving is still a floppy disk.

by sgt 4y ago

I see the symbol for saving is still a floppy disk.

CamperBob2 4y ago

What should it be? Serious question.

MerelyMortal 4y ago
Maybe we should ask one of those AI image generators? (maybe an arrow into a folder, but then some new computer users don't even know what folders are because their systems don't show them to the users) I'm also not opposed to keeping it a floppy disk. It's okay to use outdated references for things. And it's funny to hear a kid say you have a 3d-printed save icon.
- CamperBob2 4y ago
  DALL-E 2 yields https://i.imgur.com/B9kCRnt.png https://i.imgur.com/B9kCRnt.png for the prompt "a graphical icon used to represent saving a file". Not sure it's an improvement over the floppy disk. Other variations on the prompt tend to yield things like CF cards. Although I guess the file folder with the arrow isn't too bad. (For contemporary values of "Isn't too bad" equal to "Holy shit, this thing is starting to understand abstract concepts" a few months ago.)
meltedcapacitor 4y ago
Nothing? Autosave + undo supercedes "save". The "save" operation needed to be explicit on 1980s computers because nursing the floppy controller was a stop the world operation -- a long solved problem.
- tjoff 4y ago
  No thanks. I want writing to "disk" to be explicit. Automatically save a copy that you can recover from, sure, but let the user decide when and if to save it for real.
  - MerelyMortal 4y ago
    Or at the very least show a list of save points with user-defined points highlighted.
- badsectoracula 4y ago
  Autosave is an awful idea, making modifications to existing files, creating new files "in memory" that i throw away (i.e. not saving them at all) and of course making many modifications that i decide later to save under a different name are things i do all the time with all sorts of programs. If i want something to be stored in permanent storage i explicitly request that with the Save or Save As functionality. That is not to say that an autosave functionality is always useless, it can be useful -e.g.- for recovering from program failures, but not as a replacement for the explicit Save/Save As functionality.
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- jimjimjim 4y ago
  How would you save to another location? How do you save something to a usb stick? How do you save as to a different format while keeping the original?
- CamperBob2 4y ago
  Right idea but you're about 100 years ahead of your time. For now, thanks but no thanks.
RedShift1 4y ago
Perhaps we should work from a different angle, we have become so used to the word "save" that we don't think about calling it something else. How does somebody who has never heard the word "save" describe saving a file? Maybe think more in the direction of "remember" or "memorize"...
- shadowofneptune 4y ago
  Could someone who has a basic understanding of English go even two days without hearing the words 'save' or 'lost?' It seems easy enough to understand.
- sgt 4y ago
  An icon of a brain then?
mickael-kerjean 4y ago
C-x C-s

alxlaz 4y ago

What else would it be?

TobTobXX 4y ago

Q: What do the floppy disk and Jesus have in common? A: They died to become the icon of saving.

nnopepe 4y ago

Minor49er 4y ago

What do you think about the icon for a new file ("file-plus") being a sheet of paper?

badsectoracula 4y ago

At that point not being a floppy disk would be confusing - when the Tango Icon Theme was used widely, it had some weird "arrow to a box" (i think it was supposed to be a hard disk) as the save symbol and despite using such programs for years it threw me off very often when trying to find and hit the save button in a toolbar. Actually it still does since some applications still use the icon set.

duxup 4y ago

If it was anything else I would probably be confused.

marcosdumay 4y ago

And our "A" letter still comes from an stylized ox, even though I'm not aware of any modern language where the animal name starts with it. That's not reason to drop any of them.