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> Many people like to lament about “accountability” culture and how those who find themselves in the eye of the storm have done something to deserve it—perhaps

> Many people like to lament about “accountability” culture and how those who find themselves in the eye of the storm have done something to deserve it—perhaps occasionally there’s even some truth to that. Almost every "cancellation" I've seen has been accountability, this blog makes it sound like every cancellation is based on lies. Yes, there are definitely people being mobbed that either don't deserve it at all or are getting more than their 15 minutes share, but to say that people being "cancelled" only occasionally deserve it is hogwash.

zozbot234 4y ago
> Almost every "cancellation" I've seen has been accountability How do you know, exactly? Did you personally verify the facts underlying each and every case?
- orwin 4y ago
  I'm aware of two persons being actively cancelled (aka, people group to protest when they come somewhere). Roman Polansky (who still was present to get his Cesar)m and Bertrand Cantat (who still sing at some venues). One is a child rapist, and the second a murderer. Other people i know who suffer that are politicians, but we weirldy don't call that "cancellation", but "calling out". To me, if you are a public figure, you ought to be called out if you do something a part of the population don't agree with. Oh, i also know a small restaurant owner "cancelled". The cooking institute tell its female students to avoid apprenticeship there. The last time I spat on him was two month ago (basically the last time i met him). Considering he raped my sister, this isn't much of a punishment.
hedora 4y ago
I can’t think of many examples that seemed legitimate, and also shouldn’t have involved criminal charges. Obligatory example of bullshit cancellation: Fantasy writer attends panel on role of race in fantasy authorship. She accidentally uses the word colored. Now she is professionally shunned. Her husband later issued a statement pointing out she didn’t mean to offend anyone by using a term that the NAACP uses on a regular basis. As someone who got repeatedly lectured about how we must all use the word “African American” now instead of “black” back in to 90’s (But most of my African friends are white!?!), I can sympathize with the gaffe. Anyway, she’s been kicked out of a bunch of professional associations. Based on her invitation to speak at the panel, I’m assuming she’s not exactly a card carrying member of the KKK, Trump voter, etc..
- Ensorceled 4y ago
  I have a problem with the idea that if something isn't criminal, or isn't prosecutable, it is always A-OK. For every bullshit cancellation like Mercedes Lackey, there is a "bullshit cancellation" of terrible people like Kanye West, Donald Trump, Alex Jones, Mel Gibson, etc. etc.
  - hedora 4y ago
    All of the people you listed committed actual crimes.

zozbot234 4y ago

> Almost every "cancellation" I've seen has been accountability How do you know, exactly? Did you personally verify the facts underlying each and every case?

orwin 4y ago
I'm aware of two persons being actively cancelled (aka, people group to protest when they come somewhere). Roman Polansky (who still was present to get his Cesar)m and Bertrand Cantat (who still sing at some venues). One is a child rapist, and the second a murderer. Other people i know who suffer that are politicians, but we weirldy don't call that "cancellation", but "calling out". To me, if you are a public figure, you ought to be called out if you do something a part of the population don't agree with. Oh, i also know a small restaurant owner "cancelled". The cooking institute tell its female students to avoid apprenticeship there. The last time I spat on him was two month ago (basically the last time i met him). Considering he raped my sister, this isn't much of a punishment.

hedora 4y ago

I can’t think of many examples that seemed legitimate, and also shouldn’t have involved criminal charges. Obligatory example of bullshit cancellation: Fantasy writer attends panel on role of race in fantasy authorship. She accidentally uses the word colored. Now she is professionally shunned. Her husband later issued a statement pointing out she didn’t mean to offend anyone by using a term that the NAACP uses on a regular basis. As someone who got repeatedly lectured about how we must all use the word “African American” now instead of “black” back in to 90’s (But most of my African friends are white!?!), I can sympathize with the gaffe. Anyway, she’s been kicked out of a bunch of professional associations. Based on her invitation to speak at the panel, I’m assuming she’s not exactly a card carrying member of the KKK, Trump voter, etc..

Ensorceled 4y ago
I have a problem with the idea that if something isn't criminal, or isn't prosecutable, it is always A-OK. For every bullshit cancellation like Mercedes Lackey, there is a "bullshit cancellation" of terrible people like Kanye West, Donald Trump, Alex Jones, Mel Gibson, etc. etc.
- hedora 4y ago
  All of the people you listed committed actual crimes.