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I have 15 yoe and have senior software engineer title so do people with 2 yrs experience. I might be doing same thing over and over. Time to make a radical cha

I have 15 yoe and have senior software engineer title so do people with 2 yrs experience. I might be doing same thing over and over. Time to make a radical change :/.

thwayunion 4y ago
There's also nothing wrong with plateauing for a while or even topping out, especially if you are generally happy with life and career. There's pride to be had in being a good individual contributor; not everyone needs to make it to Senior Super Special Principal :)
- spacemadness 4y ago
  I keep being told I shouldn’t be writing code at my level and should be knee deep in design docs and estimations all day long. This is actually what happens but I would much prefer to be writing software and am wondering if I can even be happy in this career any longer. This industry has some real bizarre notions of career progression.
  - davewritescode 4y ago
    You need to write code and you need to get people around you to write better code. That’s basically what a staff engineer does in addition to making large design decisions.
    - spacemadness 4y ago
      That’s my belief as well but there are managers out there that think staff engineers should never write code. It boggles my mind they think this way but many do.
      - lumost 4y ago
        Writing code means that your impact can be directly measured. Others can see quality, volume, and impact. If you stop writing code then you can't be measured. If your impact is measured by others, and you aren't bound by a team... then you can just float to where the wind is blowing. It's comparatively easy to surf in this manner.
        spacemadness 4y ago
        I agree and know all this and argue it weekly, trust me. Bad management doesn’t care.
monksy 4y ago
There are other organizations that are trying to deflate titles as well. (Demanding the work of a lead, staff, or principal in a Sr without the influence to do so)
andsoitis 4y ago
What is the spread in compensation, scope of work, level of responsibility, etc.?
jcadam 4y ago
I have 16 yoe and have been a senior software engineer since forever.
jokethrowaway 4y ago
3 jobs ago I was principal engineer, 2 jobs ago I was an engineer, now I'm a senior. The type of work I'm doing has been the same, manage a team or more of engineers, do some architecture, some coding, help and mentor other engineers. Pay went up.

I have 15 yoe and have senior software engineer title so do people with 2 yrs experience. I might be doing same thing over and over. Time to make a radical change :/.

thwayunion 4y ago

There's also nothing wrong with plateauing for a while or even topping out, especially if you are generally happy with life and career. There's pride to be had in being a good individual contributor; not everyone needs to make it to Senior Super Special Principal :)

spacemadness 4y ago
I keep being told I shouldn’t be writing code at my level and should be knee deep in design docs and estimations all day long. This is actually what happens but I would much prefer to be writing software and am wondering if I can even be happy in this career any longer. This industry has some real bizarre notions of career progression.
- davewritescode 4y ago
  You need to write code and you need to get people around you to write better code. That’s basically what a staff engineer does in addition to making large design decisions.
  - spacemadness 4y ago
    That’s my belief as well but there are managers out there that think staff engineers should never write code. It boggles my mind they think this way but many do.
    - lumost 4y ago
      Writing code means that your impact can be directly measured. Others can see quality, volume, and impact. If you stop writing code then you can't be measured. If your impact is measured by others, and you aren't bound by a team... then you can just float to where the wind is blowing. It's comparatively easy to surf in this manner.
      - spacemadness 4y ago
        I agree and know all this and argue it weekly, trust me. Bad management doesn’t care.

monksy 4y ago

There are other organizations that are trying to deflate titles as well. (Demanding the work of a lead, staff, or principal in a Sr without the influence to do so)

andsoitis 4y ago

What is the spread in compensation, scope of work, level of responsibility, etc.?

jcadam 4y ago

I have 16 yoe and have been a senior software engineer since forever.

jokethrowaway 4y ago

3 jobs ago I was principal engineer, 2 jobs ago I was an engineer, now I'm a senior. The type of work I'm doing has been the same, manage a team or more of engineers, do some architecture, some coding, help and mentor other engineers. Pay went up.