For a discussion that began with a clear definition of "what is a framework", you sure are spending a lot of effort muddying the waters. I for one strongly disa

For a discussion that began with a clear definition of "what is a framework", you sure are spending a lot of effort muddying the waters. I for one strongly disagree with you on the idea that coders "accidentally" create frameworks, just like one might accidentally slip on a banana peel. I have written several codebases that have NOTHING resembling a framework in them.