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There's nothing that needs solved. It's ideal to shrink the global population while boosting per capita quality of life. The focus should be on improving per ca

There's nothing that needs solved. It's ideal to shrink the global population while boosting per capita quality of life. The focus should be on improving per capita, not on expanding the overall economic size or population numbers. Providing housing to young families will not make a meaningful dent to declining demographics in the affluent world. People do not want to have so many children (3-5 or more) and it's not due to lack of housing. That's a cultural change and no amount of housing is going to reverse it. And even in the financial scenario, the housing aspect is only one chunk of the huge cost of raising several children.

epicureanideal 4y ago
> There's nothing that needs solved. It's ideal to shrink the global population while boosting per capita quality of life. The focus should be on improving per capita, not on expanding the overall economic size or population numbers. Then why do we simultaneously import millions of workers each year to make up for the supposed shortage of natural population growth (caused by policy)?
- Retric 4y ago
  In part because importing people without paying for 12 years of public education is an economic bargain.
  - epicureanideal 4y ago
    But many of those coming here are not well educated. Hard working maybe, adventurous certainly, but often economically deprived and undereducated as a result, or so I’ve read.
    - Retric 4y ago
      There is a real illegal vs legal split here, legal immigrants tend to be quite well educated. The majority of illegal immigrants have a high school degree but they are definitely less educated than the average American. That said, while undocumented immigrants tend to be less educated being able to work when we didn’t pay for any of their education is still a boon. It’s something of a waste to pay for 12 years of education and then have someone doing manual labor.
    - ClumsyPilot 4y ago
      If you immigrated to the west as a working proffesional, then you have to have job offer, education and usually you have to be somewhat well off to be able to afford lawyers and get through the visa process.
ClumsyPilot 4y ago
> boosting per capita quality of life The per capita quality of life has been stagnant for like 20 years. Housing crisis does not boost quality of life at all > People do not want to have so many children (3-5 or more) and it's not due to lack of housing. We've conducted polling and studied the issue. You don't need 5 kids, you need 2.1 for replacement rate "The stress of housing problems is preventing almost 2m people from having children, the Affordable Housing Commission has claimed" https://www.mortgagestrategy.co.uk/news/housing-stress-prevents-millions-from-having-children/ https://www.mortgagestrategy.co.uk/news/housing-stress-preve...

epicureanideal 4y ago

> There's nothing that needs solved. It's ideal to shrink the global population while boosting per capita quality of life. The focus should be on improving per capita, not on expanding the overall economic size or population numbers. Then why do we simultaneously import millions of workers each year to make up for the supposed shortage of natural population growth (caused by policy)?

Retric 4y ago
In part because importing people without paying for 12 years of public education is an economic bargain.
- epicureanideal 4y ago
  But many of those coming here are not well educated. Hard working maybe, adventurous certainly, but often economically deprived and undereducated as a result, or so I’ve read.
  - Retric 4y ago
    There is a real illegal vs legal split here, legal immigrants tend to be quite well educated. The majority of illegal immigrants have a high school degree but they are definitely less educated than the average American. That said, while undocumented immigrants tend to be less educated being able to work when we didn’t pay for any of their education is still a boon. It’s something of a waste to pay for 12 years of education and then have someone doing manual labor.
  - ClumsyPilot 4y ago
    If you immigrated to the west as a working proffesional, then you have to have job offer, education and usually you have to be somewhat well off to be able to afford lawyers and get through the visa process.

ClumsyPilot 4y ago

> boosting per capita quality of life The per capita quality of life has been stagnant for like 20 years. Housing crisis does not boost quality of life at all > People do not want to have so many children (3-5 or more) and it's not due to lack of housing. We've conducted polling and studied the issue. You don't need 5 kids, you need 2.1 for replacement rate "The stress of housing problems is preventing almost 2m people from having children, the Affordable Housing Commission has claimed" https://www.mortgagestrategy.co.uk/news/housing-stress-prevents-millions-from-having-children/ https://www.mortgagestrategy.co.uk/news/housing-stress-preve...