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He never had covid to anyone's knowledge, atleast he never took any time off for it and never showed symptoms. All we know is he was vaccinated, went to the gym

He never had covid to anyone's knowledge, atleast he never took any time off for it and never showed symptoms. All we know is he was vaccinated, went to the gym, was energetic at work, and died in his sleep. I was just making a point that covid related anecdata exists on all sides. In response to the guy above me giving out his singular anecdata point. Edit: also, I had met the guy 3 years ago and talked for 10+ minutes.. and now he's dead at 49. So it was top of mind.

inferiorhuman 4y ago
Here's a scary thought: everyone who's ever gotten vaccinated against COVID will die. Eventually. Just like everyone else.
- phpthrowaway99 4y ago
  Here's a scary thought more scary than your platitude. In 5-10 years, we might find that everyone that got the vaccine does die like everyone dies.. except they die several years earlier than average.
  - inferiorhuman 4y ago
    In 5-10 years, we might find that everyone that got the vaccine does die like everyone dies.. except they die several years earlier than average. Thanks for saying the quiet part out loud. That makes it easier to follow up with this was disingenuous of you: I'm not implying anything.
    - phpthrowaway99 4y ago
      I don't see how my own personal views matter in regards to what I said. Even if I was pro vax, and had every booster under the sun, I could still just as easily post about how people on all sides of the covid spectrum have their own anecdata points... And bring up my coworker worried the vaccine is unsafe because his vaccinated and boosted boss, that seemed perfectly healthy, died in his sleep last week and now he's wondering if it was the vaccine.
      - inferiorhuman 4y ago
        Sure you could just as easily post whatever, but you're not. Whoever called you coy wasn't giving you enough credit. You're propping up your worldview (one that's not supported with a shred of evidence) with innuendo.
        phpthrowaway99 4y ago
  - orwin 4y ago
    What's funny is that the narrative early 2021 was everybody getting the vaccine would die within a year. I'm happy to have survived it.
    - stackola 4y ago
      Not to stir the pot too much, but the much more prevelant narrative was "Everybody not getting the vaccine would die within a year"
      - phpthrowaway99 4y ago
        I heard that very often from my old college friends. And it made me laugh considering during 2020s harsh covid, media said half the people that get it don't even have any symptoms... And then when the vaccine came around, I was apparently going to die if I got it without the vaccine. Apparently the nuance between some people can't even tell they got it, some people have a mild cold, and some people die got lost on some people. Even bill Maher showed that democrats were over estimating death odds by almost 20x, while republicans it was about 3-4x I think.
    - phpthrowaway99 4y ago
      That was maybe the crazies narrative on some Qanon site. I'm sure that was repeated often to make anti vaxers look insane. But for most anti vax people the narrative was "we have no idea if it's safe long term, and at the rate they seem to be pushing this on pregnant women right away, kids asap and apparently infants soon, I don't think I can trust these people." I can't honestly remember or repeat what all the fringe doctors and researches, but yes doctors and researches, have said to convince me of my views.. but enough was said that you couldn't get me to take the vaccine for $100k, and I'm no tech millionaire.
      - inferiorhuman 4y ago
    - ekianjo 4y ago
John23832 4y ago
Then there was an implication? That the anecdote isn't representative of what is actually happening? Stop being coy.
- phpthrowaway99 4y ago
  The implication was that these anecdata tales exist on both sides, especially one of just ONE singular anecdote. I wasn't implying that covid is fake or the vaccine is harmful, although I have my own reservations. The point was singular data points exist on both sides.
  - John23832 4y ago
    And in order to show that "other side" you would need to provide some data that implies that "covid is fake", "the vaccine is harmful", "that is much to do about nothing". The original idea presented was that covid was the cause of the thread owners issues. Presenting other data while saying "Anecdata can go all ways" is saying "no it was not". Stop hiding behind "both sides". You can't "both sides" something that is presented as quantitative fact (binary outcomes are quantitative), you either agree with it or disagree with it. So your implication is that you disagree with the quantitative fact presented. jfc. Say what you want with your chest. Stop being coy.
    - phpthrowaway99 4y ago
      When I said other side, I didn't mean the exact other side of OPs view about long covid. I meant the other complete side of the covid spectrum.. aka the anti vaxers. Maybe I wrote it poorly, technically English is my second language although I've been here for a long time. My point is, these singular personalized emotional data points exist all over, on both sides of the spectrum. That's all. Regarding me being coy... Sure, I'm so coy I'm taking probably the most hated position on this site. I suppose I should just open with "As a covid vaccine sceptic, " and have people shut down instantly instead.
jonas21 4y ago
How is this anecdote COVID-related? I feel like I'm missing something, unless this is some sort of shaggy dog story. EDIT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaggy_dog_story https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaggy_dog_story
- phpthrowaway99 4y ago
  It is covid vaccine related which makes it somewhat covid related. Ps, that post was more about a girl shagging a dog.. it was a short hair dog, not shaggy. Edit: not fair you putting the explanation of what a shaggy dog story was. Ha. I thought it was in reference to a post of mine from yesterday about a girl on POF I discovered gross pictures of right before a date.
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inferiorhuman 4y ago

Here's a scary thought: everyone who's ever gotten vaccinated against COVID will die. Eventually. Just like everyone else.

phpthrowaway99 4y ago
Here's a scary thought more scary than your platitude. In 5-10 years, we might find that everyone that got the vaccine does die like everyone dies.. except they die several years earlier than average.
- inferiorhuman 4y ago
  In 5-10 years, we might find that everyone that got the vaccine does die like everyone dies.. except they die several years earlier than average. Thanks for saying the quiet part out loud. That makes it easier to follow up with this was disingenuous of you: I'm not implying anything.
  - phpthrowaway99 4y ago
    I don't see how my own personal views matter in regards to what I said. Even if I was pro vax, and had every booster under the sun, I could still just as easily post about how people on all sides of the covid spectrum have their own anecdata points... And bring up my coworker worried the vaccine is unsafe because his vaccinated and boosted boss, that seemed perfectly healthy, died in his sleep last week and now he's wondering if it was the vaccine.
    - inferiorhuman 4y ago
      Sure you could just as easily post whatever, but you're not. Whoever called you coy wasn't giving you enough credit. You're propping up your worldview (one that's not supported with a shred of evidence) with innuendo.
      - phpthrowaway99 4y ago
- orwin 4y ago
  What's funny is that the narrative early 2021 was everybody getting the vaccine would die within a year. I'm happy to have survived it.
  - stackola 4y ago
    Not to stir the pot too much, but the much more prevelant narrative was "Everybody not getting the vaccine would die within a year"
    - phpthrowaway99 4y ago
      I heard that very often from my old college friends. And it made me laugh considering during 2020s harsh covid, media said half the people that get it don't even have any symptoms... And then when the vaccine came around, I was apparently going to die if I got it without the vaccine. Apparently the nuance between some people can't even tell they got it, some people have a mild cold, and some people die got lost on some people. Even bill Maher showed that democrats were over estimating death odds by almost 20x, while republicans it was about 3-4x I think.
  - phpthrowaway99 4y ago
    That was maybe the crazies narrative on some Qanon site. I'm sure that was repeated often to make anti vaxers look insane. But for most anti vax people the narrative was "we have no idea if it's safe long term, and at the rate they seem to be pushing this on pregnant women right away, kids asap and apparently infants soon, I don't think I can trust these people." I can't honestly remember or repeat what all the fringe doctors and researches, but yes doctors and researches, have said to convince me of my views.. but enough was said that you couldn't get me to take the vaccine for $100k, and I'm no tech millionaire.
    - inferiorhuman 4y ago
  - ekianjo 4y ago

John23832 4y ago

Then there was an implication? That the anecdote isn't representative of what is actually happening? Stop being coy.

phpthrowaway99 4y ago
The implication was that these anecdata tales exist on both sides, especially one of just ONE singular anecdote. I wasn't implying that covid is fake or the vaccine is harmful, although I have my own reservations. The point was singular data points exist on both sides.
- John23832 4y ago
  And in order to show that "other side" you would need to provide some data that implies that "covid is fake", "the vaccine is harmful", "that is much to do about nothing". The original idea presented was that covid was the cause of the thread owners issues. Presenting other data while saying "Anecdata can go all ways" is saying "no it was not". Stop hiding behind "both sides". You can't "both sides" something that is presented as quantitative fact (binary outcomes are quantitative), you either agree with it or disagree with it. So your implication is that you disagree with the quantitative fact presented. jfc. Say what you want with your chest. Stop being coy.
  - phpthrowaway99 4y ago
    When I said other side, I didn't mean the exact other side of OPs view about long covid. I meant the other complete side of the covid spectrum.. aka the anti vaxers. Maybe I wrote it poorly, technically English is my second language although I've been here for a long time. My point is, these singular personalized emotional data points exist all over, on both sides of the spectrum. That's all. Regarding me being coy... Sure, I'm so coy I'm taking probably the most hated position on this site. I suppose I should just open with "As a covid vaccine sceptic, " and have people shut down instantly instead.

jonas21 4y ago

How is this anecdote COVID-related? I feel like I'm missing something, unless this is some sort of shaggy dog story. EDIT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaggy_dog_story https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaggy_dog_story

phpthrowaway99 4y ago
It is covid vaccine related which makes it somewhat covid related. Ps, that post was more about a girl shagging a dog.. it was a short hair dog, not shaggy. Edit: not fair you putting the explanation of what a shaggy dog story was. Ha. I thought it was in reference to a post of mine from yesterday about a girl on POF I discovered gross pictures of right before a date.
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