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> This information War on ADHD stigmatizes affected people, On the contrary I see tons of accommodations made by both private and public organizations. Many, m

by tomcam 4y ago

> This information War on ADHD stigmatizes affected people, On the contrary I see tons of accommodations made by both private and public organizations. Many, many people seem to enjoy diagnosing themselves with this condition. Can someone point to evidence of stigmatization?

MaxDPS 4y ago
Getting meds at the pharmacy (even after getting a prescription) can be a pain. I’ve run into issues where I’ll have a prescription, but the pharmacy that it’s sent to is out of stock. But pharmacy’s aren’t allowed to disclose stock of controlled substances over the phone, so I have to call my Dr to ask them to transfer the prescription to a different pharmacy, hoping that it’s not out of stock. If it is, I have to do that all over again. It’s annoying to say the least.
- tomcam 4y ago
  I think maybe you answered the wrong comment
  - Dylan16807 4y ago
    Not the wrong place; stigma is a huge part of why fulfilling these subscriptions is so awful.
    - tomcam 4y ago
      I don't understand the connection at all. The pharmacy doesn't know if I'm diagnosed with ADHD but I have all those same problems. Also why would they want to withhold drugs from you? Aren't pharmacies usually parts of money-grubbing conglomerates that just want money out of you? What is in it for them to use "stigma" as a way to reduce service to you? Conversely, can you imagine the blowback if this were discovered to be the case?
      - Dylan16807 4y ago
        It's not stigma against you, personally. It's stigma against ADHD-havers in general that encourages policy-makers to keep the system this broken. > Also why would they want to withhold drugs from you? Stimulants are bad drugs!! Though the pharmacy itself is more worried about getting in trouble for making things too easy, because the laws are that awful. > Conversely, can you imagine the blowback if this were discovered to be the case? I imagine it to be quite negligible.
- makestuff 4y ago
  That is partly due to the rise in prescribing the medication. I saw the DOJ launched an investigation into some of these mental health startups to determine if they are just modern day pill mills, or if they are actually helping people. I do agree with your point though, getting controlled substances filled is hard. It is unfortunate people abuse them which makes it harder for people who actually need them to have them filled easily.
triggercut 4y ago
There is nothing to enjoy about having ADHD any more than you would "enjoy" having herpes. I thought I was just depressed for 20 years and had a hard enough time trying to cover that up. I work in an industry that is built on trust through repeated execution and excellence - Management Consulting It's thinking work. Any mental "impairment" could reasonably be classified as effecting that consistent repeatability with certainty. Dysregulation of attention and emotion means your ability to execute is not always in your control, and sometimes you will take longer, or make mistakes, or sometimes you hit it right out of the park... but too far - you are seen as being inconsistent. Your ups and downs are much more frequent and often in severity than the general population (that's what makes it a disorder) A lot of people partition you in the "too-hard" to deal with pile. They don't know what to do with you, how to use you effectively. Covering up for this, masking, takes a huge amount of additional effort and drains you physically and mentally. Yes my organization champions the importance of diversity, even neurodiversity because diverse teams work better and deliver better results. Yes I have access to some accommodations, but my work is project based, I get pulled onto things by others. If they subconsciously have a bias towards putting me on something because they are afraid of that inconsistency when the stakes are already high, then I'll likely be looked over. Not everyone, but many. You're a risk. A liability. I have a friend. An incredible lawyer. Here undiagnosed ADHD and diagnosed depression meant she had to take some time off due to being completely burnt out. She disclosed it to her employer. She was pressured into signing an NDA before later being fired because the partner couldn't "trust" or "deal with" her not always being available. The NDA meant that she couldn't speak publicly about it or sue her former employer for wrongful dismissal. It ruined her career.
- RHSman2 4y ago
  I wouldn't change having ADHD.
  - triggercut 4y ago
    I sincerely envy you
    - 4y ago

by tomcam 4y ago

MaxDPS 4y ago

Getting meds at the pharmacy (even after getting a prescription) can be a pain. I’ve run into issues where I’ll have a prescription, but the pharmacy that it’s sent to is out of stock. But pharmacy’s aren’t allowed to disclose stock of controlled substances over the phone, so I have to call my Dr to ask them to transfer the prescription to a different pharmacy, hoping that it’s not out of stock. If it is, I have to do that all over again. It’s annoying to say the least.

tomcam 4y ago
I think maybe you answered the wrong comment
- Dylan16807 4y ago
  Not the wrong place; stigma is a huge part of why fulfilling these subscriptions is so awful.
  - tomcam 4y ago
    I don't understand the connection at all. The pharmacy doesn't know if I'm diagnosed with ADHD but I have all those same problems. Also why would they want to withhold drugs from you? Aren't pharmacies usually parts of money-grubbing conglomerates that just want money out of you? What is in it for them to use "stigma" as a way to reduce service to you? Conversely, can you imagine the blowback if this were discovered to be the case?
    - Dylan16807 4y ago
      It's not stigma against you, personally. It's stigma against ADHD-havers in general that encourages policy-makers to keep the system this broken. > Also why would they want to withhold drugs from you? Stimulants are bad drugs!! Though the pharmacy itself is more worried about getting in trouble for making things too easy, because the laws are that awful. > Conversely, can you imagine the blowback if this were discovered to be the case? I imagine it to be quite negligible.
makestuff 4y ago
That is partly due to the rise in prescribing the medication. I saw the DOJ launched an investigation into some of these mental health startups to determine if they are just modern day pill mills, or if they are actually helping people. I do agree with your point though, getting controlled substances filled is hard. It is unfortunate people abuse them which makes it harder for people who actually need them to have them filled easily.

triggercut 4y ago

There is nothing to enjoy about having ADHD any more than you would "enjoy" having herpes. I thought I was just depressed for 20 years and had a hard enough time trying to cover that up. I work in an industry that is built on trust through repeated execution and excellence - Management Consulting It's thinking work. Any mental "impairment" could reasonably be classified as effecting that consistent repeatability with certainty. Dysregulation of attention and emotion means your ability to execute is not always in your control, and sometimes you will take longer, or make mistakes, or sometimes you hit it right out of the park... but too far - you are seen as being inconsistent. Your ups and downs are much more frequent and often in severity than the general population (that's what makes it a disorder) A lot of people partition you in the "too-hard" to deal with pile. They don't know what to do with you, how to use you effectively. Covering up for this, masking, takes a huge amount of additional effort and drains you physically and mentally. Yes my organization champions the importance of diversity, even neurodiversity because diverse teams work better and deliver better results. Yes I have access to some accommodations, but my work is project based, I get pulled onto things by others. If they subconsciously have a bias towards putting me on something because they are afraid of that inconsistency when the stakes are already high, then I'll likely be looked over. Not everyone, but many. You're a risk. A liability. I have a friend. An incredible lawyer. Here undiagnosed ADHD and diagnosed depression meant she had to take some time off due to being completely burnt out. She disclosed it to her employer. She was pressured into signing an NDA before later being fired because the partner couldn't "trust" or "deal with" her not always being available. The NDA meant that she couldn't speak publicly about it or sue her former employer for wrongful dismissal. It ruined her career.

RHSman2 4y ago
I wouldn't change having ADHD.
- triggercut 4y ago
  I sincerely envy you
  - 4y ago