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Between 25 and 55 percent of enterprise use Macs. https://www.computerworld.com/article/3562374/mac-adoption-in-enterprise-grows-survey-says.html https://www.c

Between 25 and 55 percent of enterprise use Macs. https://www.computerworld.com/article/3562374/mac-adoption-in-enterprise-grows-survey-says.html https://www.computerworld.com/article/3562374/mac-adoption-i... https://www.computerworld.com/article/3604601/macs-reach-23-share-in-us-enterprises-idc-confirms.html https://www.computerworld.com/article/3604601/macs-reach-23-... And apparently all of the fortune 500 https://appleinsider.com/articles/19/11/12/100-of-fortune-500-companies-are-using-apple-products https://appleinsider.com/articles/19/11/12/100-of-fortune-50... Your model of "just fancy tech companies and startups" is maybe a bit outdated.

yamtaddle 4y ago
> Your model of "just fancy tech companies and startups" is maybe a bit outdated. It's really not. More permit them now or have some departments or (perhaps acquired) sub-units that use them. Your average office drone and old-corp IT person or developer is still issued a Windows machine, and probably a low-end one. [EDIT] Broader point remains either way: issuing $3.5k laptops/desktops is very very far from the norm.
- ianbutler 4y ago
  Okay, I’ve provided 3 articles to the contrary and you just restated your opinion. Not sure what you want to happen here but I guess we agree to disagree and move on.
  - yamtaddle 4y ago
    Your articles are 1) marketing pieces, so very untrustworthy, and 2) don't support the notion that Macs are the typical devices issued by enterprises. I did read them, they're just not very relevant. [EDIT] Incidentally, I never even claimed this: > Your model of "just fancy tech companies and startups" is maybe a bit outdated. I claimed that those are the only sorts of companies where one can be pretty sure most workers aren't seeing and using lots of mostly-cheap Windows machines. Which is a very different claim from those being the only places that use Macs at all, or are even the only ones that mostly use Macs. I wrote: > Including lots of developers—just not the ones at fancy tech companies or startups. I.e. I'm saying that almost no fancy tech companies or startups are likely to push cheap Windows laptops on their developers, which explains how some people might come to think that organizations in general are generous with equipment dollars for their workers and are sensitive to the costs in lost productivity of issuing shitty devices. This is not the case, even for software developers, in much of the economy outside that bubble.
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benhurmarcel 4y ago
Those sources just say that those companies have some Apple products somewhere in the company. Not that they supply mainly Macs. I work at a very large company that's probably counted here (because the number of Apple devices in the company is not 0), and almost everyone is only supplied with a mid-range Windows laptop, and a cheap Android phone.

yamtaddle 4y ago

> Your model of "just fancy tech companies and startups" is maybe a bit outdated. It's really not. More permit them now or have some departments or (perhaps acquired) sub-units that use them. Your average office drone and old-corp IT person or developer is still issued a Windows machine, and probably a low-end one. [EDIT] Broader point remains either way: issuing $3.5k laptops/desktops is very very far from the norm.

ianbutler 4y ago
Okay, I’ve provided 3 articles to the contrary and you just restated your opinion. Not sure what you want to happen here but I guess we agree to disagree and move on.
- yamtaddle 4y ago
  Your articles are 1) marketing pieces, so very untrustworthy, and 2) don't support the notion that Macs are the typical devices issued by enterprises. I did read them, they're just not very relevant. [EDIT] Incidentally, I never even claimed this: > Your model of "just fancy tech companies and startups" is maybe a bit outdated. I claimed that those are the only sorts of companies where one can be pretty sure most workers aren't seeing and using lots of mostly-cheap Windows machines. Which is a very different claim from those being the only places that use Macs at all, or are even the only ones that mostly use Macs. I wrote: > Including lots of developers—just not the ones at fancy tech companies or startups. I.e. I'm saying that almost no fancy tech companies or startups are likely to push cheap Windows laptops on their developers, which explains how some people might come to think that organizations in general are generous with equipment dollars for their workers and are sensitive to the costs in lost productivity of issuing shitty devices. This is not the case, even for software developers, in much of the economy outside that bubble.
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benhurmarcel 4y ago

Those sources just say that those companies have some Apple products somewhere in the company. Not that they supply mainly Macs. I work at a very large company that's probably counted here (because the number of Apple devices in the company is not 0), and almost everyone is only supplied with a mid-range Windows laptop, and a cheap Android phone.