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Is it a sign of neuroatypicality if I find faces just generally distracting and useless in meetings? IMO there are more than enough non-verbal cues in voice a

Is it a sign of neuroatypicality if I find faces just generally distracting and useless in meetings? IMO there are more than enough non-verbal cues in voice and real-time conversation flow like response speed. (Plus people have way too much control over body language and facial expression for it to be useful in work setting)

prng2021 4y ago
If you find faces to be useless, you can hide them on your computer monitor while in a meeting and no one would know. In the metaverse the avatars will not be faceless and you won’t be able to hide them from view
- crooked-v 4y ago
  In Facebook's metaverse you can't, but in VRChat (that is, the app people actually use), disabling others' avatars (which sets them to a generic default 'robot') is default functionality.
zwkrt 4y ago
I don’t personally think that meetings would be the same without any smiles.
rjzzleep 4y ago
You're not the only one. It's just that there is a massive industry teaching people that effective communication and active listening involves staring into peoples eyes and giving constant affirmation with noise that they are being listened to. Something that in other cultures can be considered highly offensive and rude by the way. So no, you're not the only one, but unfortunately, you, just like me, are a silent minority. Although in some of my previous engagements building efficient highly distributed teams have spent a lot of time teaching people to work asynchronously. Which made the few time limited calls extremely effective.
elmomle 4y ago
You raise some interesting points; I just want to point out that it's extremely difficult to maintain complete, continuous control over body language and facial expression--consider how significant the concept of a "tell" is even at the highest levels of poker play.
chrismarlow9 4y ago
When I'm in video meetings I become hyper aware that I'm on camera and it immediately diverts a bit of my focus to little social things: - oh I'm not smiling! - what's that on my face? - my hair is sticking up - did I just pick my nose? Even if I turn off my cam view of myself I can't seem to get rid of it. Of course I have some of this awareness in real world meetings but in a virtual meetings it's like 10x. It makes trying to do any coding over a screen share almost impossible for me, my brain feels like it's being split in half doing too much at once. Luckily most peer coding is just the screen and voice, no cam. Except interviews, lol.
lexandstuff 4y ago
I'm the opposite. I find it very difficult to communicate with someone who doesn't turn on video. It's tough to gauge whether the other person understands what I'm saying or if we're still connected as I talk. I can never get in the flow. I never liked phone calls and always preferred face-to-face communication, maybe that's related.
- throwaway290 4y ago
  With voice, I am focused on what I am saying until I make my point. If it then turns out I was not listened to, that sucks and screw that person. With video, while making my point I see the person staring at the screen, eyes wandering, and I guess it's 50/50 chance they are browsing the web. They may not, but visual input makes me wonder and ruins my focus. Times that the number of participants, if everyone has video on. And yeah, when on a call I almost always walk, helps concentration/blood flow.

prng2021 4y ago

If you find faces to be useless, you can hide them on your computer monitor while in a meeting and no one would know. In the metaverse the avatars will not be faceless and you won’t be able to hide them from view

crooked-v 4y ago
In Facebook's metaverse you can't, but in VRChat (that is, the app people actually use), disabling others' avatars (which sets them to a generic default 'robot') is default functionality.

zwkrt 4y ago

I don’t personally think that meetings would be the same without any smiles.

rjzzleep 4y ago

You're not the only one. It's just that there is a massive industry teaching people that effective communication and active listening involves staring into peoples eyes and giving constant affirmation with noise that they are being listened to. Something that in other cultures can be considered highly offensive and rude by the way. So no, you're not the only one, but unfortunately, you, just like me, are a silent minority. Although in some of my previous engagements building efficient highly distributed teams have spent a lot of time teaching people to work asynchronously. Which made the few time limited calls extremely effective.

elmomle 4y ago

You raise some interesting points; I just want to point out that it's extremely difficult to maintain complete, continuous control over body language and facial expression--consider how significant the concept of a "tell" is even at the highest levels of poker play.

chrismarlow9 4y ago

When I'm in video meetings I become hyper aware that I'm on camera and it immediately diverts a bit of my focus to little social things: - oh I'm not smiling! - what's that on my face? - my hair is sticking up - did I just pick my nose? Even if I turn off my cam view of myself I can't seem to get rid of it. Of course I have some of this awareness in real world meetings but in a virtual meetings it's like 10x. It makes trying to do any coding over a screen share almost impossible for me, my brain feels like it's being split in half doing too much at once. Luckily most peer coding is just the screen and voice, no cam. Except interviews, lol.

lexandstuff 4y ago

I'm the opposite. I find it very difficult to communicate with someone who doesn't turn on video. It's tough to gauge whether the other person understands what I'm saying or if we're still connected as I talk. I can never get in the flow. I never liked phone calls and always preferred face-to-face communication, maybe that's related.

throwaway290 4y ago
With voice, I am focused on what I am saying until I make my point. If it then turns out I was not listened to, that sucks and screw that person. With video, while making my point I see the person staring at the screen, eyes wandering, and I guess it's 50/50 chance they are browsing the web. They may not, but visual input makes me wonder and ruins my focus. Times that the number of participants, if everyone has video on. And yeah, when on a call I almost always walk, helps concentration/blood flow.