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My HR department has started blacking out identifying resume details - including dates and durations of employment, so for all I know, I could be looking at som

My HR department has started blacking out identifying resume details - including dates and durations of employment, so for all I know, I could be looking at somebody with one year of experience who changes jobs every two months.

dudul 4y ago
What was the rationale? That it was a proxy for the candidate's age? That sounds like pushing things a bit far.
- commandlinefan 4y ago
  They didn’t tell us, but that’s our best guess.
chii 4y ago
did those actions/methods result in any better hiring outcomes than before? Or is it basically the same as security theatre?
CamelCaseName 4y ago
Perhaps they already screen out people with short job stints? Though you should be able to estimate duration based on the bullet points.
patrakov 4y ago
This is quite dangerous, because it creates bias against people whose CV is not a traditional CV, but more like a portfolio, with works that uniquely identify the author. My own CV would be way too gray if one excludes my contributions to various open-source projects and articles that I have written - all of which would be identifying. Another class of extreme examples would be public political figures. There is only one person who has successfully implemented a city-wide smoking ban. There is only one person who was a minister of finance, and then worked on in-game economics.
- intelVISA 4y ago
  You should fuzz your CV's details before submission
  - patrakov 4y ago
    Easier said than done, but you are welcome to try fuzzing my CV. As I mentioned, this would likely erase half of the CV. https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=wT8otalK https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=wT8otalK (outdated for legal reasons - the current employer does not permit mentioning them, due to social engineering concerns, while I still work for them)
morelisp 4y ago
Meanwhile in Germany, our HR department still expresses unease when people don't put their photo on their CV. :(

dudul 4y ago

What was the rationale? That it was a proxy for the candidate's age? That sounds like pushing things a bit far.

commandlinefan 4y ago
They didn’t tell us, but that’s our best guess.

chii 4y ago

did those actions/methods result in any better hiring outcomes than before? Or is it basically the same as security theatre?

CamelCaseName 4y ago

Perhaps they already screen out people with short job stints? Though you should be able to estimate duration based on the bullet points.

patrakov 4y ago

This is quite dangerous, because it creates bias against people whose CV is not a traditional CV, but more like a portfolio, with works that uniquely identify the author. My own CV would be way too gray if one excludes my contributions to various open-source projects and articles that I have written - all of which would be identifying. Another class of extreme examples would be public political figures. There is only one person who has successfully implemented a city-wide smoking ban. There is only one person who was a minister of finance, and then worked on in-game economics.

intelVISA 4y ago
You should fuzz your CV's details before submission
- patrakov 4y ago
  Easier said than done, but you are welcome to try fuzzing my CV. As I mentioned, this would likely erase half of the CV. https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=wT8otalK https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=wT8otalK (outdated for legal reasons - the current employer does not permit mentioning them, due to social engineering concerns, while I still work for them)

morelisp 4y ago

Meanwhile in Germany, our HR department still expresses unease when people don't put their photo on their CV. :(