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On the other hand, nobody forces the feed on you if you choose your own community. Yes popular subs can be very political and biased but it doesn't mean you hav

On the other hand, nobody forces the feed on you if you choose your own community. Yes popular subs can be very political and biased but it doesn't mean you have to join them. On reddit, you can totally avoid bans and still say something. On Facebook, your words and your whole account have no value if the algorithm decides you spoke a 'no no word'. Facebook feed is entirely controlled by the algorithm and that algorithm is controlled by the people at Facebook, the reddit feed can be controlled by you. That difference alone makes Reddit a little bit better than Facebook. Getting banned on Facebook is extremely easy, I got banned for quoting someone's comment and replying with 'ok' and unfortunately I'm not kidding. So far on reddit, haven't gotten any bans or warnings and I have always kept my discussions civil. Facebook wants conformity, it doesn't slap you on the wrist if you do something that Zuckerberg doesn't approve, it totally takes your voice away for a long time. I deleted my 10 year old Facebook account because the censorship was getting really crazy. Somebody could give you death threats and your comments would be the one getting deleted by Facebook, that's how bad it got near the end of 2020.

MichaelCollins 4y ago
> On the other hand, nobody forces the feed on you if you choose your own community. That's only true if you stay small. If the subreddit gains traction, it will be taken from you if you don't moderate in a way that suits the whims of the power mod / admin cabal. They may take it from you under a flimsy pretext even if you're doing a good job, simply because they want to add your subreddit to their dominion.
- NayamAmarshe 4y ago
  Yes, no denying that but at least you have the ability to reach the point. Facebook on the other hand finishes before something can even start because the algorithm checks every single word that you post, unlike Reddit.
  - MichaelCollins 4y ago
    This seems like arguing whether chicken shit or pig shit smells worse.
    - NayamAmarshe 4y ago
      That was a really bad comparison. Moderators on Reddit can be biased in different areas, they might let a comment pass or have a nervous breakdown over something they don't like. It's not clear and never will be but you still have the freedom. Facebook algorithm does not miss. It does not overlook things or understand context. All it knows is someone said something they're not supposed to and that is the difference. I'll take Reddit over Facebook anytime of the day because at least on Reddit, I can say controversial things (if any) on my own feed without the fear of the algorithm deleting it and banning me for a month where I have no voice, only a threat to be confirming to Facebook ideals that I have no idea what they are. So yeah, both are censuring but Reddit allows more freedom.
      - MichaelCollins 4y ago
        It's a good analogy because they're both terrible. You can fly under the radar on reddit or facebook by staying small or using innuendo, but why subject yourself to either? Whatever relative merit one may have vs the other is irrelevant since neither is worth using. In both cases, you are only as free as a medieval peasant; "free" to say what you like as long as the lord or his informants don't hear you.
        NayamAmarshe 4y ago
        My utopia does not have Facebook or Reddit but whatever it has, is closer to Reddit than Facebook. So I'm ready to pick the better of the two options at the moment. I do condemn censorship in all forms (unless specific laws are being followed) but after fighting against all the platforms for a voice, I see Reddit as the best option for civil discourse. Hackernews is also very close to reddit and we know the model works very well. Wherever I am, I'm always looking for good discussions (like this thread for example) and I'm glad that I can do it more freely on Reddit and HN than I ever could on Twitter or Facebook, hence my comments.

MichaelCollins 4y ago

> On the other hand, nobody forces the feed on you if you choose your own community. That's only true if you stay small. If the subreddit gains traction, it will be taken from you if you don't moderate in a way that suits the whims of the power mod / admin cabal. They may take it from you under a flimsy pretext even if you're doing a good job, simply because they want to add your subreddit to their dominion.

NayamAmarshe 4y ago
Yes, no denying that but at least you have the ability to reach the point. Facebook on the other hand finishes before something can even start because the algorithm checks every single word that you post, unlike Reddit.
- MichaelCollins 4y ago
  This seems like arguing whether chicken shit or pig shit smells worse.
  - NayamAmarshe 4y ago
    That was a really bad comparison. Moderators on Reddit can be biased in different areas, they might let a comment pass or have a nervous breakdown over something they don't like. It's not clear and never will be but you still have the freedom. Facebook algorithm does not miss. It does not overlook things or understand context. All it knows is someone said something they're not supposed to and that is the difference. I'll take Reddit over Facebook anytime of the day because at least on Reddit, I can say controversial things (if any) on my own feed without the fear of the algorithm deleting it and banning me for a month where I have no voice, only a threat to be confirming to Facebook ideals that I have no idea what they are. So yeah, both are censuring but Reddit allows more freedom.
    - MichaelCollins 4y ago
      It's a good analogy because they're both terrible. You can fly under the radar on reddit or facebook by staying small or using innuendo, but why subject yourself to either? Whatever relative merit one may have vs the other is irrelevant since neither is worth using. In both cases, you are only as free as a medieval peasant; "free" to say what you like as long as the lord or his informants don't hear you.
      - NayamAmarshe 4y ago
        My utopia does not have Facebook or Reddit but whatever it has, is closer to Reddit than Facebook. So I'm ready to pick the better of the two options at the moment. I do condemn censorship in all forms (unless specific laws are being followed) but after fighting against all the platforms for a voice, I see Reddit as the best option for civil discourse. Hackernews is also very close to reddit and we know the model works very well. Wherever I am, I'm always looking for good discussions (like this thread for example) and I'm glad that I can do it more freely on Reddit and HN than I ever could on Twitter or Facebook, hence my comments.