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Has Elon's plan been taken seriously by anyone or has it been dismissed because wanting to have war with Russia seems to be The Thing right now?

by mikece 4y ago

TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
18 U.S. Code § 953 - Private correspondence with foreign governments Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/953 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/953
- app4soft 4y ago
  ... aka the Logan Act.[0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act
dekhn 4y ago
The diplomats in question have a wide range of options available to them including "Elon's plan". however, they are much wiser and more experienced than him, and rightfully ignore him. It wasn't his plan (obviously) and the consequences of following his suggestions would be dire.
rsynnott 4y ago
In general, appeasing Putin hasn't worked out particularly well for Ukraine (see, for instance, Crimea), so I'm not sure what would make them think that it was a good idea now. The Ukrainian government will presumably be relying on expert advice, rather than weird car manufacturers, here. Based on the presence of the... unusual phrase "Khrushchev's mistake", I'd assume it isn't _his_ plan, anyway; it's something he read on the internet and is regurgitating.
legitster 4y ago
Probably not because there's no reason to think Russia is being serious. Russia's non-negotiable tiny footnote in all of their peace proposals so far has been to take control of the security policy of every surrounding country. Giving them parts of Ukraine and then letting them re-establish the USSR seems like something that will never happen.

Has Elon's plan been taken seriously by anyone or has it been dismissed because wanting to have war with Russia seems to be The Thing right now?

by mikece 4y ago

Has Elon's plan been taken seriously by anyone or has it been dismissed because wanting to have war with Russia seems to be The Thing right now?

TheLoafOfBread 4y ago

18 U.S. Code § 953 - Private correspondence with foreign governments Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/953 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/953

app4soft 4y ago
... aka the Logan Act.[0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act

dekhn 4y ago

The diplomats in question have a wide range of options available to them including "Elon's plan". however, they are much wiser and more experienced than him, and rightfully ignore him. It wasn't his plan (obviously) and the consequences of following his suggestions would be dire.

rsynnott 4y ago

In general, appeasing Putin hasn't worked out particularly well for Ukraine (see, for instance, Crimea), so I'm not sure what would make them think that it was a good idea now. The Ukrainian government will presumably be relying on expert advice, rather than weird car manufacturers, here. Based on the presence of the... unusual phrase "Khrushchev's mistake", I'd assume it isn't _his_ plan, anyway; it's something he read on the internet and is regurgitating.

legitster 4y ago

Probably not because there's no reason to think Russia is being serious. Russia's non-negotiable tiny footnote in all of their peace proposals so far has been to take control of the security policy of every surrounding country. Giving them parts of Ukraine and then letting them re-establish the USSR seems like something that will never happen.