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Am I going crazy? This sounds awful. I've never listened to Joe Rogan - but does he really sound like his voice has passed through a square wave? He has almost

by edent 4y ago

Am I going crazy? This sounds awful. I've never listened to Joe Rogan - but does he really sound like his voice has passed through a square wave? He has almost no intonation. The AI can't even pronounce "Swayze" correctly. Job's laugh sounds psychotic and out of place. And his voice, again, sounds robotic. The dialogue is utterly nonsense. What's going on with the hype here?

geeny777 4y ago
Everyone knows it's terrible, but it's cool that they could do this at all. Like, it's a small preview of what's possible. Imagine this 10 years from now.
- agildehaus 4y ago
  10 years? Imagine it 2 years from now. Or even tomorrow, because it's unlikely this is the apex of what's possible now.
- 0xbadcafebee 4y ago
  I imagine in 10 years it'll be the same. Firstly because if you can't get "enough" good content to model, you will have to manually shape the models to make it sound authentic - and that isn't AI, that's editing. But secondly because humans are very good at recognizing authentically human interactions, and algorithms simply aren't good enough to generate all the nuances we identify as authentic. If you want to fake someone out, use a regular person, and clean it up in post.
hollowdene 4y ago
Yeah. The first few seconds of Rogan talking were pretty decent, but Jobs doesn't sound right at all, mainly because of the dialogue specifically. But I do kind of get the hype.
joshuahedlund 4y ago
The first few minutes sounded bad but the last half was quite impressive.
roflyear 4y ago
The first minute or two of Jobs is pretty bad, but after that it is not that bad. Not totally convincing, but it isn't bad. I suspect most people saying this did not listen past that part.
anjc 4y ago
It's state of the art. It sounds amazing compared to anything that's existed before. What alternative are you comparing this to to say that it's awful?
- pixxel 4y ago
  A contrarian outburst seems to be the default on HN these days. Perhaps it has seeped in via the rampant infestation of politics. The ‘hackers’ get blasted when sharing projects. Personally I’m in awe of this tech. But I also detest its inevitable weaponisation. But the tech! Wow.
password54321 4y ago
If you are only looking at the current product and not the potential that comes with it then you are missing the point.
- edent 4y ago
  The problem is - can the potential ever be realised? Self-driving cars are, what, 90% of the way there? And have basically been stuck at "almost there" for quite some time. AR had huge potential when I first played with it in the early 2000s. Still basically nowhere. So we've now got systems which can generate text which fools people into thinking it was written by a human - well, Eliza got there first. Text to speech? The Voder was doing that in 1939! This stuff is better, sure, but pretty far from being realistic. Perhaps this will succeed. But potential doesn't always mean achievable.

by edent 4y ago

geeny777 4y ago

Everyone knows it's terrible, but it's cool that they could do this at all. Like, it's a small preview of what's possible. Imagine this 10 years from now.

agildehaus 4y ago
10 years? Imagine it 2 years from now. Or even tomorrow, because it's unlikely this is the apex of what's possible now.
0xbadcafebee 4y ago
I imagine in 10 years it'll be the same. Firstly because if you can't get "enough" good content to model, you will have to manually shape the models to make it sound authentic - and that isn't AI, that's editing. But secondly because humans are very good at recognizing authentically human interactions, and algorithms simply aren't good enough to generate all the nuances we identify as authentic. If you want to fake someone out, use a regular person, and clean it up in post.

hollowdene 4y ago

Yeah. The first few seconds of Rogan talking were pretty decent, but Jobs doesn't sound right at all, mainly because of the dialogue specifically. But I do kind of get the hype.

joshuahedlund 4y ago

The first few minutes sounded bad but the last half was quite impressive.

roflyear 4y ago

The first minute or two of Jobs is pretty bad, but after that it is not that bad. Not totally convincing, but it isn't bad. I suspect most people saying this did not listen past that part.

anjc 4y ago

It's state of the art. It sounds amazing compared to anything that's existed before. What alternative are you comparing this to to say that it's awful?

pixxel 4y ago
A contrarian outburst seems to be the default on HN these days. Perhaps it has seeped in via the rampant infestation of politics. The ‘hackers’ get blasted when sharing projects. Personally I’m in awe of this tech. But I also detest its inevitable weaponisation. But the tech! Wow.

password54321 4y ago

If you are only looking at the current product and not the potential that comes with it then you are missing the point.

edent 4y ago
The problem is - can the potential ever be realised? Self-driving cars are, what, 90% of the way there? And have basically been stuck at "almost there" for quite some time. AR had huge potential when I first played with it in the early 2000s. Still basically nowhere. So we've now got systems which can generate text which fools people into thinking it was written by a human - well, Eliza got there first. Text to speech? The Voder was doing that in 1939! This stuff is better, sure, but pretty far from being realistic. Perhaps this will succeed. But potential doesn't always mean achievable.