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Depends if you consider the NSA breaching their inter-data-center traffic 15+ years ago or not.

• ericmay 4y ago
  No reason to really consider that as relevant here since if you consider it then you also have to consider that they’ve breached not only every potential contractor for the USG but also any company that matters.
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  • feanaro 4y ago
    > but also any company that matters. Wow, that's pretty loaded. Is this some kind of no true Scotsman situation?
    • dekhn 4y ago
      Huh? No.
    • ericmay 4y ago
      I mean every big tech company of course: Google, Meta, Apple, Amazon, etc. but also they're going to have backdoors into companies like Boeing or perhaps 3M, banks, etc. "Matters" in this context was related to national security concerns.
  • jeffbee 4y ago
    I love the idea that the USG has simply backdoored Google, because it implies 1) a covert team of google3 shadow contributors, which is kind of funny and it must suck for them to not have platform support, but also 2) that the team responsible for micromanaging every joule that their datacenters consume, and charging back to every product group for resources used down to the nanodollar, simply hasn't noticed this ongoing campaign of bulk access.
• FateOfNations 4y ago
  I don't hold that one against them... they were not a willing participant in it, and at the time one wouldn't have reasonably included that in a threat model (and still isn't a part of a threat model for most people), so I wouldn't say they were negligent either.