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Our phones are already SuperApps, this is an attempt at redistricting.

by butterfi 4y ago

pjerem 4y ago
This. OSes already are "SuperApps" having access to basically everything.
eternalban 4y ago
What do you mean by redistricting? Expand please.
- indymike 4y ago
  Redefining who controls different parts of the ecosystem. For example, making it so apple mail is not the main controller of email on iphone, or the app store being the main controller for getting apps onto the device. It's just put everything in one app, and then have control. It's not very creative, and is really just a centralization play.
  - eternalban 4y ago
    Thanks.
etiam 4y ago
Agreed. Given the headline main thrust it's a shame so many are effectively forced to using one out the duopoly already. Some compulsively "modern" countries have in practice made subjugation before either Google or Apple mandatory for full functionality in society. Identification, payment, access to information about common goods, etc, have already been burdened with an abundance of friction for someone who's not constantly carrying one of these tracking and monitoring devices.
Levitz 4y ago
A phone is a physical purchased good though, that sets it in a whole different category, you can't prevent someone from getting a phone, generally, and he has freedom to choose how to use it. The implicit requirement to have a phone is a whole different matter that can be argued about, but that conversation is also about mail addresses or bank accounts and even further away from what the article comments on.
mortenjorck 4y ago
This is the real reason WeChat exists and that there's no equivalent (or market for one) in the west. The built-in apps on iOS and Android for messaging, payment, mapping, photo storage, and so forth serve the needs of a majority of users while consolidating market power for the platform operators Apple and Google. These integrated experiences had gaps in China, which were filled by Tencent, which then became a sort of virtual platform operator, essentially running its own virtual set of built-in apps on top of foreign-made operating systems. There's no market for a replacement for a built-in app suite in the west so long as the existing ones are meeting users' needs, which is why we haven't seen Facebook succeed at this. I'm not sure where Musk thinks this market for the "X app" is going to come from.
- oefrha 4y ago
  > messaging, payment, mapping, photo storage It’s funny, out of the four things you listed, WeChat does not provide half of them. So much for “everything”.

Our phones are already SuperApps, this is an attempt at redistricting.

pjerem 4y ago

This. OSes already are "SuperApps" having access to basically everything.

eternalban 4y ago

What do you mean by redistricting? Expand please.

indymike 4y ago
Redefining who controls different parts of the ecosystem. For example, making it so apple mail is not the main controller of email on iphone, or the app store being the main controller for getting apps onto the device. It's just put everything in one app, and then have control. It's not very creative, and is really just a centralization play.
- eternalban 4y ago
  Thanks.

etiam 4y ago

Agreed. Given the headline main thrust it's a shame so many are effectively forced to using one out the duopoly already. Some compulsively "modern" countries have in practice made subjugation before either Google or Apple mandatory for full functionality in society. Identification, payment, access to information about common goods, etc, have already been burdened with an abundance of friction for someone who's not constantly carrying one of these tracking and monitoring devices.

Levitz 4y ago

A phone is a physical purchased good though, that sets it in a whole different category, you can't prevent someone from getting a phone, generally, and he has freedom to choose how to use it. The implicit requirement to have a phone is a whole different matter that can be argued about, but that conversation is also about mail addresses or bank accounts and even further away from what the article comments on.

mortenjorck 4y ago

This is the real reason WeChat exists and that there's no equivalent (or market for one) in the west. The built-in apps on iOS and Android for messaging, payment, mapping, photo storage, and so forth serve the needs of a majority of users while consolidating market power for the platform operators Apple and Google. These integrated experiences had gaps in China, which were filled by Tencent, which then became a sort of virtual platform operator, essentially running its own virtual set of built-in apps on top of foreign-made operating systems. There's no market for a replacement for a built-in app suite in the west so long as the existing ones are meeting users' needs, which is why we haven't seen Facebook succeed at this. I'm not sure where Musk thinks this market for the "X app" is going to come from.

oefrha 4y ago
> messaging, payment, mapping, photo storage It’s funny, out of the four things you listed, WeChat does not provide half of them. So much for “everything”.