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I once built a site that used Spotify playlist data directly. The intention was that you could take one of your own playlist and find playlists that have the gr

I once built a site that used Spotify playlist data directly. The intention was that you could take one of your own playlist and find playlists that have the greatest overlaps. The intention was to find people with a similiar musical taste to yourself. Interestingly I found a lot of new music that way and also found other music directions that suddenly interested me. Thinking this a little further, it provides the perfekt basis for a dating application. Music is a very personally representation of oneself and if you find someone who has the same muscial taste, you already have a common basis for communication. Obviously this never made it past developer status since Spotify does not like third party apps storing their data (i.e. playlists of other people). You can use the data but not store it or analyse it. It made me think that Spotify should build a dating app since they would have no interest in keeping you in their dating app as thats not their main business, unlike other dating platforms that have little interest in losing their customers.

NomadicDaggy 4y ago
Interesting idea! Slightly off-topic, but originally I had planned to organically grow the playlist count by allowing users to login with their Spotify account and reading their playlists. I even made a prototype...but turns out Spotify only allows working with user data once you have your API quota extended, which seemed like quite the undertaking.
- fluxinflex 4y ago
  Yer their quote system is a bit painful. I built a bunch of background jobs that continually retrieved data ... max'ed out the quote limit constantly. I even went as far as setting a second developer account to have a larger limit ;) I also did a writeup[1] on lessons learnt in case someone is interested in rinsing and repeating on this idea. [1]=https://gregorius.rippenstein.art/works/hamoni https://gregorius.rippenstein.art/works/hamoni
  - NomadicDaggy 4y ago
    I'll check out the write-up, thanks. As for user-data, the request count limit is not even the limiting factor. If you want to request data with a users token, you can't at all, without getting a quota extension (apart from 25 pre-registered developer users).
blfr 4y ago
> Thinking this a little further, it provides the perfekt basis for a dating application. Music is a very personally representation of oneself and if you find someone who has the same muscial taste, you already have a common basis for communication. I don't think a shared taste in music is that important, or at all, in a relationship but this is the premise of aptly named Tastebuds[1], a dating app based around favorite music. You can import your listening data from Last.fm and Spotify. [1] https://tastebuds.fm/ https://tastebuds.fm/
- fluxinflex 4y ago
  True, there are definitely people who don't place any importance on music but for those that do, musical taste can be very important in a relationship. So, no music taste isn't ultimate be-all-and-end-all factor but for some it can be very important! Tastebuds seems only to have a facebook login - hm, not everyone uses FB! Strange that they don't have a Spotify login, probably the same issues that other apps face when they start to store Spotify data.
  - blfr 4y ago
    You can register by email and then import your info from Spotify.
- nonameiguess 4y ago
  You can base a relationship on plenty of other things, but shared interest in something is pretty important. Music can be a big one for a lot of people. My wife and I met at a KMFDM show, and traveling to music festivals is still the biggest social thing we have going on at all. Doing that without her would be a lot less gratifying than doing it with her.
  - Ntrails 4y ago
    I feel like there is a difference between sharing a love of music and sharing a love of the same music. I believe I would struggle with someone who loved no music and/or with whom there was zero overlap. But I'd not expect to love the same things
tuzemec 4y ago
Remember last.fm? If I remember correctly, it was able to show other profiles with similar music taste.
- Inversechi 4y ago
  It still does - in the Neighbours view.
- boraoztunc 4y ago
  I still use last.fm, connected to my Spotify account. Before it was connected to the iTunes with their desktop app. I always loved their listening analysis and charts, matching with other people's taste.
WinstonBites 4y ago
stats.fm app has a matching service using spotify stats that sound similar to what you are describing
mariusor 4y ago
Back in the day we used last.fm (nee audioscrobbler.com) for this. :) I have a largish group of friends that I met through similar tastes in music and being "neighbours" on last.fm.
- raffraffraff 4y ago
  It's nowhere near as good as it was in its hayday in 2006, but I wonder if, instead of specifically finding playlists with the song, you could instead grab 5 songs either side of it in scrobble histories. Sure, you'd have to filter out album tracklists, artist shuffles and then dedupe. But because of what last.fm is (99% a tool for listing everything you've ever listened to) it should have far more data to pick from, including all of your inspired ad-hoc mixes that would otherwise be lost.
mbrameld 4y ago
Isn't that how Spotify originally did their discover playlists? Seems like I remember they took the songs you listened to most frequently, found playlists other users have made containing that song, then looked for songs you haven't listened to on the platform yet that frequently appeared in playlists with the songs you play frequently.
jedberg 4y ago
We had the same idea about reddit years ago. Letting people opt into "dating" and then sending them matches of people who upvote similar articles. We were even building the recommender on the same technology. Not sure why we didn't do it, I guess we just didn't have the time.
Kkoala 4y ago
https://tunemeet.com/ https://tunemeet.com/ has kind of similar idea, it matches you to other people who are listening to the same song at the moment. Or to people who have some of the top 5 songs as you
propogandist 4y ago
spotify constantly calls the facebook SDK to tell it everything you’re doing and listening to, so Facebook has the data although they’ve failed to build a dating app.
profstasiak 4y ago
if you think this is a good idea, just go to music shows for your favourite artists. A lot of people go to those solo. If you talk to someone you like, and you spend a music show together dancing and enjoying an artist you both really like you are going to have such a strong start of the relationship it's only going downhill from that momement [0] [0] true story, multiple times

NomadicDaggy 4y ago

Interesting idea! Slightly off-topic, but originally I had planned to organically grow the playlist count by allowing users to login with their Spotify account and reading their playlists. I even made a prototype...but turns out Spotify only allows working with user data once you have your API quota extended, which seemed like quite the undertaking.

fluxinflex 4y ago
Yer their quote system is a bit painful. I built a bunch of background jobs that continually retrieved data ... max'ed out the quote limit constantly. I even went as far as setting a second developer account to have a larger limit ;) I also did a writeup[1] on lessons learnt in case someone is interested in rinsing and repeating on this idea. [1]=https://gregorius.rippenstein.art/works/hamoni https://gregorius.rippenstein.art/works/hamoni
- NomadicDaggy 4y ago
  I'll check out the write-up, thanks. As for user-data, the request count limit is not even the limiting factor. If you want to request data with a users token, you can't at all, without getting a quota extension (apart from 25 pre-registered developer users).

blfr 4y ago

> Thinking this a little further, it provides the perfekt basis for a dating application. Music is a very personally representation of oneself and if you find someone who has the same muscial taste, you already have a common basis for communication. I don't think a shared taste in music is that important, or at all, in a relationship but this is the premise of aptly named Tastebuds[1], a dating app based around favorite music. You can import your listening data from Last.fm and Spotify. [1] https://tastebuds.fm/ https://tastebuds.fm/

fluxinflex 4y ago
True, there are definitely people who don't place any importance on music but for those that do, musical taste can be very important in a relationship. So, no music taste isn't ultimate be-all-and-end-all factor but for some it can be very important! Tastebuds seems only to have a facebook login - hm, not everyone uses FB! Strange that they don't have a Spotify login, probably the same issues that other apps face when they start to store Spotify data.
- blfr 4y ago
  You can register by email and then import your info from Spotify.
nonameiguess 4y ago
You can base a relationship on plenty of other things, but shared interest in something is pretty important. Music can be a big one for a lot of people. My wife and I met at a KMFDM show, and traveling to music festivals is still the biggest social thing we have going on at all. Doing that without her would be a lot less gratifying than doing it with her.
- Ntrails 4y ago
  I feel like there is a difference between sharing a love of music and sharing a love of the same music. I believe I would struggle with someone who loved no music and/or with whom there was zero overlap. But I'd not expect to love the same things

tuzemec 4y ago

Remember last.fm? If I remember correctly, it was able to show other profiles with similar music taste.

Inversechi 4y ago
It still does - in the Neighbours view.
boraoztunc 4y ago
I still use last.fm, connected to my Spotify account. Before it was connected to the iTunes with their desktop app. I always loved their listening analysis and charts, matching with other people's taste.

WinstonBites 4y ago

stats.fm app has a matching service using spotify stats that sound similar to what you are describing

mariusor 4y ago

Back in the day we used last.fm (nee audioscrobbler.com) for this. :) I have a largish group of friends that I met through similar tastes in music and being "neighbours" on last.fm.

raffraffraff 4y ago
It's nowhere near as good as it was in its hayday in 2006, but I wonder if, instead of specifically finding playlists with the song, you could instead grab 5 songs either side of it in scrobble histories. Sure, you'd have to filter out album tracklists, artist shuffles and then dedupe. But because of what last.fm is (99% a tool for listing everything you've ever listened to) it should have far more data to pick from, including all of your inspired ad-hoc mixes that would otherwise be lost.

mbrameld 4y ago

Isn't that how Spotify originally did their discover playlists? Seems like I remember they took the songs you listened to most frequently, found playlists other users have made containing that song, then looked for songs you haven't listened to on the platform yet that frequently appeared in playlists with the songs you play frequently.

jedberg 4y ago

We had the same idea about reddit years ago. Letting people opt into "dating" and then sending them matches of people who upvote similar articles. We were even building the recommender on the same technology. Not sure why we didn't do it, I guess we just didn't have the time.

Kkoala 4y ago

https://tunemeet.com/ https://tunemeet.com/ has kind of similar idea, it matches you to other people who are listening to the same song at the moment. Or to people who have some of the top 5 songs as you

propogandist 4y ago

spotify constantly calls the facebook SDK to tell it everything you’re doing and listening to, so Facebook has the data although they’ve failed to build a dating app.

profstasiak 4y ago

if you think this is a good idea, just go to music shows for your favourite artists. A lot of people go to those solo. If you talk to someone you like, and you spend a music show together dancing and enjoying an artist you both really like you are going to have such a strong start of the relationship it's only going downhill from that momement [0] [0] true story, multiple times