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Yankee Candle reviews indicate that Covid is about surge again

21 points by vichu 4y ago

thedrbrian 4y ago
- r2_pilot 4y ago
  Well, they've directly protected me from disease at least twice. Life isn't binary 100% or 0%, we have a whole range of numbers between the two extremes.
  - serf 4y ago
    >Well, they've directly protected me from disease at least twice. i'm glad for you, but somewhat skeptical of the knowledge. How does one even determine that? Exposure events that didn't cause symptoms, or lessened symptoms encountered when affected? It's a genuine question; I don't really understand how one would separate immune system effectiveness from vaccine effectiveness with a sampling of a single person given that not every exposure results in illness and the fluidity of the expressed symptoms across the board are so all-over-the-place that they're difficult to compare.
    - r2_pilot 4y ago
      The first time(of two) I was exposed to covid by my roommate, we didn't have tests(he later had an antibody test that was positive), but I never developed any symptoms. Who knows, but I was protected from acute illness. The second time he brought it home, we had tests, where he tested positive on multiple days, and I never tested positive nor showed symptoms. Both times, I took no precautions since I was initially exposed before I could mask or distance myself. I have pictures of my negative results, but I don't think you'd accept that as evidence. I just bring this up because there's still a lot of people who don't believe these vaccines work at all, and I am anecdata that shows they do work to reduce or prevent disease(and even infection, proved by rapid testing). Those were two cases where someone in the (small) household was sick. I'm sure, as I work in public education, I've been exposed many more times, but I can't say anything about public exposure since I don't have proof of exposure or duration.
- iLoveOncall 4y ago
  Nobody ever claimed that.
  - josephcsible 4y ago
    Biden did: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-if-vaccinated-wont-get-covid/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-if-vaccinated-wont-g...
    - anecdotal1 4y ago
      Did the CDC or any health organization also make this claim? Genuinely curious
      - core-utility 4y ago
        Pfizer themselves: https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-confirm-high-efficacy-and-no-serious https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-deta... > Vaccine was 100% effective in preventing severe disease as defined by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and 95.3% effective in preventing severe disease as defined by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration Vaccine was 100% effective in preventing COVID-19 cases in South Africa, where the B.1.351 lineage is prevalent
        edmundsauto 4y ago
        Those were study results, do you think they were falsified?
        nonameking2026 4y ago
        Pfizer and big-pharma has a long history of fudging the truth and bribery. Why should it be different now ? Same people.
        edmundsauto 4y ago
stolenmerch 4y ago
I have no doubt that there is a correlation and I did read the Bayesian Vector Autoregression paper. However, I think it's a bit misleading for a doctor to take to social media with some very casual observations of Amazon reviews and make confident claims that covid is about to "surge" so therefore we should all return to masking. I need a lot more than just his screenshots of the reviews. I need to see the cases actually surging. They aren't in most of the world. One of his "no scent" reviews was actually just a subjective review that the scent isn't strong enough. The others were from a week ago. His linked article claims "COVID-19 cases predicted more “no smell” reviews. For every 100,000 new COVID-19 cases per week, he found, “no smell” reviews increased by a quarter of a percentage point in the next week." So shouldn't we have seen this surge already? This just feels sloppy to me.
- fortyseven 4y ago
  When I saw this earlier, I assumed it was a joke and moved on.
renewedrebecca 4y ago
Yankee Candles are the Waffle House of Covid.
georgeplusplus 4y ago
How long until we start hearing about choosing between getting a booster and losing your job? I suppose that's a convenient way to get unemployment down when your economy is experiencing record breaking inflation
warinukraine 4y ago
Proven 4y ago

21 points by vichu 4y ago

r2_pilot 4y ago
Well, they've directly protected me from disease at least twice. Life isn't binary 100% or 0%, we have a whole range of numbers between the two extremes.
- serf 4y ago
  >Well, they've directly protected me from disease at least twice. i'm glad for you, but somewhat skeptical of the knowledge. How does one even determine that? Exposure events that didn't cause symptoms, or lessened symptoms encountered when affected? It's a genuine question; I don't really understand how one would separate immune system effectiveness from vaccine effectiveness with a sampling of a single person given that not every exposure results in illness and the fluidity of the expressed symptoms across the board are so all-over-the-place that they're difficult to compare.
  - r2_pilot 4y ago
    The first time(of two) I was exposed to covid by my roommate, we didn't have tests(he later had an antibody test that was positive), but I never developed any symptoms. Who knows, but I was protected from acute illness. The second time he brought it home, we had tests, where he tested positive on multiple days, and I never tested positive nor showed symptoms. Both times, I took no precautions since I was initially exposed before I could mask or distance myself. I have pictures of my negative results, but I don't think you'd accept that as evidence. I just bring this up because there's still a lot of people who don't believe these vaccines work at all, and I am anecdata that shows they do work to reduce or prevent disease(and even infection, proved by rapid testing). Those were two cases where someone in the (small) household was sick. I'm sure, as I work in public education, I've been exposed many more times, but I can't say anything about public exposure since I don't have proof of exposure or duration.
iLoveOncall 4y ago
Nobody ever claimed that.
- josephcsible 4y ago
  Biden did: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-if-vaccinated-wont-get-covid/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-if-vaccinated-wont-g...
  - anecdotal1 4y ago
    Did the CDC or any health organization also make this claim? Genuinely curious
    - core-utility 4y ago
      Pfizer themselves: https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-confirm-high-efficacy-and-no-serious https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-deta... > Vaccine was 100% effective in preventing severe disease as defined by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and 95.3% effective in preventing severe disease as defined by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration Vaccine was 100% effective in preventing COVID-19 cases in South Africa, where the B.1.351 lineage is prevalent
      - edmundsauto 4y ago
        Those were study results, do you think they were falsified?
        nonameking2026 4y ago
        Pfizer and big-pharma has a long history of fudging the truth and bribery. Why should it be different now ? Same people.
        edmundsauto 4y ago

I have no doubt that there is a correlation and I did read the Bayesian Vector Autoregression paper. However, I think it's a bit misleading for a doctor to take to social media with some very casual observations of Amazon reviews and make confident claims that covid is about to "surge" so therefore we should all return to masking. I need a lot more than just his screenshots of the reviews. I need to see the cases actually surging. They aren't in most of the world. One of his "no scent" reviews was actually just a subjective review that the scent isn't strong enough. The others were from a week ago. His linked article claims "COVID-19 cases predicted more “no smell” reviews. For every 100,000 new COVID-19 cases per week, he found, “no smell” reviews increased by a quarter of a percentage point in the next week." So shouldn't we have seen this surge already? This just feels sloppy to me.

fortyseven 4y ago
When I saw this earlier, I assumed it was a joke and moved on.

renewedrebecca 4y ago

Yankee Candles are the Waffle House of Covid.

georgeplusplus 4y ago

How long until we start hearing about choosing between getting a booster and losing your job? I suppose that's a convenient way to get unemployment down when your economy is experiencing record breaking inflation

warinukraine 4y ago

Proven 4y ago