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It’s because when you hire employees they come with the aspect of being “people”. People work to live, they don’t live to work.

by isodev 4y ago

phpisthebest 4y ago
This has the very very close connotation to "from each according to ability to each according to need" I live a very frugle life, my expenses are low, I have no kids, I dont take expensive vacations, drive a fancy car, etc... So should that mean I do not get time off, or high raises, etc simply because my "needs" are not the same as a co-worker? Why should a co-workers personal life choices (i.e the choice to have 1 or more children) be a factor in the terms of their employment? I think employment policies should be agnostic to the personal life choices and situations of employee's infact the employer should not even know if you have kids or not, let alone provide you with "extra" because you do Sounds like you would support a policy of income based on your personal expenses. Should the programmer with 5 kids make more than the programmer with no kids simply because the programmer with kids has more expenses?
- therouwboat 4y ago
  Maybe you should talk to your boss and ask for more, instead complaining about others.
  - phpisthebest 4y ago
    I am in the US and I do pick my employers based on these kinds of policies because their is no government mandate.
- niels8472 4y ago
  Considering having children is beneficial to society and the economy (e.g. it's advantageous for employers since they still want to be able to hire people in n years and surely they'd like there to still be customers) one could argue that the programmer with five kids should get some "compensation" for this service, and as we know some countries do either directly or via employers.
- lagadu 4y ago
  > Should the programmer with 5 kids make more than the programmer with no kids simply because the programmer with kids has more expenses? The programmer with 5 kids does make more than the one with no kids because he pays fewer income taxes. So the answer to your question is yes: it's how it already works.
  - phpisthebest 4y ago
    No my question was should they. I also disagree with the Child tax credit.
- HowTheStoryEnds 4y ago
  > Sounds like you would support a policy of income based on your personal expenses. Should the programmer with 5 kids make more than the programmer with no kids simply because the programmer with kids has more expenses? First time in Europe? That's pretty much a given here, more kids = bigger tax break = more netto pay.

It’s because when you hire employees they come with the aspect of being “people”. People work to live, they don’t live to work.

by isodev 4y ago

It’s because when you hire employees they come with the aspect of being “people”. People work to live, they don’t live to work.

phpisthebest 4y ago

This has the very very close connotation to "from each according to ability to each according to need" I live a very frugle life, my expenses are low, I have no kids, I dont take expensive vacations, drive a fancy car, etc... So should that mean I do not get time off, or high raises, etc simply because my "needs" are not the same as a co-worker? Why should a co-workers personal life choices (i.e the choice to have 1 or more children) be a factor in the terms of their employment? I think employment policies should be agnostic to the personal life choices and situations of employee's infact the employer should not even know if you have kids or not, let alone provide you with "extra" because you do Sounds like you would support a policy of income based on your personal expenses. Should the programmer with 5 kids make more than the programmer with no kids simply because the programmer with kids has more expenses?

therouwboat 4y ago
Maybe you should talk to your boss and ask for more, instead complaining about others.
- phpisthebest 4y ago
  I am in the US and I do pick my employers based on these kinds of policies because their is no government mandate.
niels8472 4y ago
Considering having children is beneficial to society and the economy (e.g. it's advantageous for employers since they still want to be able to hire people in n years and surely they'd like there to still be customers) one could argue that the programmer with five kids should get some "compensation" for this service, and as we know some countries do either directly or via employers.
lagadu 4y ago
> Should the programmer with 5 kids make more than the programmer with no kids simply because the programmer with kids has more expenses? The programmer with 5 kids does make more than the one with no kids because he pays fewer income taxes. So the answer to your question is yes: it's how it already works.
- phpisthebest 4y ago
  No my question was should they. I also disagree with the Child tax credit.
HowTheStoryEnds 4y ago
> Sounds like you would support a policy of income based on your personal expenses. Should the programmer with 5 kids make more than the programmer with no kids simply because the programmer with kids has more expenses? First time in Europe? That's pretty much a given here, more kids = bigger tax break = more netto pay.