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Really simple question is whether car keys are banned under the same rules. They are powered by the same types of batteries.
by ezfe 4y ago
Really simple question is whether car keys are banned under the same rules. They are powered by the same types of batteries.
- tsimionescu 4y agoOf course they are also banned, if they also use lithium batteries, though who flies with car keys? Especially in their checked in luggage?
- ghaff 4y agoLots of people travel with car keys if they drive to the airport. But it would be pretty dumb to put them in checked luggage.
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- ezfe 4y agoYes, but my point is that if they agree car keys are banned then AirTags are banned. If they say car keys are fine then they have no standing for banning AirTags. And yes, I agree that checking one’s car keys is silly.
- simondotau 4y agoI think it’s a stupid decision by Lufthansa, but to be fair, these keys will only transmit when prompted by a radio signal from a specific car, whereas an AirTag will transmit when prompted by any iPhone. There are, surprisingly, more iPhones inside the typical airplane than cars.
- MichaelCollins 4y agoI always fly with my car keys (almost always in my carry-on bag) even when I take the train to the airport. Simply because my car keys are on the same keychain as my house keys, and I never leave home for anything without those..
- ghaff 4y agoI have a combo lock at home. So I leave my keys at home unless I'm driving to the airport.
- tsimionescu 4y agoOops, I am so used to taking a taxi (I don't drive) to the airport that I completely forgot many people actually drive there... Quite an idiot moment.
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- MichaelCollins 4y agoI never drive to the airport (parking is expensive and the train is cheap), but my car keys stay on my keychain and my keychain travels with me.
- LeoPanthera 4y ago> who flies with car keys? Literally everyone who parked at the airport?
- cortesoft 4y agoWhy do you think airports have parking lots? Tons of people drive to the airport before flying
- kube-system 4y agoCar keys usually remained powered off until a button is pressed.
- LeoPanthera 4y agoDo they though? Lots of cars unlock when you get near to them with the key, which I imagine is technology effectively identical to an AirTag.
- waste_monk 4y agoI believe they're in a constant low-power mode, I think (?) the car periodically transmits a beacon that "wakes up" the key (assuming it's nearby, of course) and initiates the challenge/response process.
- orangepurple 4y agoThat is patently false. Keyless car fobs are constantly transmitting and it is possible to shut them down for long term storage with a key combination that almost nobody ever uses or even knows about.
- abiloe 4y agoIf you're going to use language like "patently false" it helps to be correct. Keyless car fobs are not constantly transmitting. If they were, the battery would die quite quick. The key combinations to disable them help to prevent relay attacks, not because they just constantly transmit.
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- kwhitefoot 4y agoThey don't transmit continuously. The little CR2032 cell in my Tesla key would be dead in a day or two but in fact it lasts about at least six months, probably more like a year. I presume that they listen for a ping from the car and only then transmit. Unless you press a button of course. I've had the car almost five years and I think I have only replaced the battery four times.
- numbers 4y agoAnd some watches use these batteries too.
- TheRealPomax 4y agoYou check your watch in?
- ezfe 4y agoIt's not about whether we should, it's whether they'd allow us to
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- brewdad 4y agoAirlines do recommend keeping your car keys in your carry-on. Presumably this is so that you aren't stranded if your baggage gets lost rather than a ban on its battery.