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How comes iTunes movies takes minutes to display a list on Apple TV, feels like minutes all the time?

jleahy 4y ago
Normally you post a question and someone posts an answer. Here someone has posted the answer and you have posted the question. Are we playing Jeopardy?
- tmpz22 4y ago
  Or to just say it - because the system has absurd complexity as proven by the hardware needed to run it.
ezfe 4y ago
While it doesn't take that long on my device, it probably is related to the fact that the iTunes store is over 20 years old and has the tech debt to prove it.
reaperducer 4y ago
How comes iTunes movies takes minutes to display a list on Apple TV, feels like minutes all the time? I just fired up the iTunes Movies app on my AppleTV for the first time so no cache (I only watch my DVD/Blu-Ray rips), and the app started and loaded a full list of movies in a little under 3.5 seconds. If it takes you minutes, it sounds like PEBKAC.
- vonseel 4y ago
  Idk. Apple search APIs seem slower than competitors often; my non-tech family members have made similar comments to me about Apple Music and Apple TV+ being slower than Netflix (or Prime) / Spotify.
  - reaperducer 4y ago
    But the OP specified iTunes Movies, which is not AppleTV+ or Apple Music.
- jerrysievert 4y ago
  to be fair, I have a fairly large iTunes purchased back-catalog of tv series and movies - when I go to view the index of them on a gigabit network, it takes more time than I would expect it to. latest appletv. but, if I hit play, it's instantaneous and I'm surprised at the quality (plus they've upgraded a ton of my purchases to 4k when I bought them at whatever I could) if I contrast that to local plex, the plex meta-data is instantaneous, but I find it amusing that the appletv videos start more quickly. plex îs local cache, usually still in memory, apple is building my stuff from legacy iTunes data that I doubt they cache forever for me. that said, I think I'm ok with the tradeoff for the most part.
  - vonseel 4y ago
    Yea, it's amazing how quickly videos stream from most services. If your Plex videos are taking a while to start, might be an issue with your client or server setup. Are the disk drives sleeping so they have to spin up, are they slow for some other reason, etc. My storage is all on spinning disk on 8+ year old hardware and I don't have any issues, except with certain slow clients.
    - jerrysievert 4y ago
      the slowdown is with 4k movies - all codec (audio/video) match so no transcoding, plex runs in a vm with 4 typically idle cpu's allocated, and disks are cached with ssd's on a synology. still the slowest of the players I watch. you can use infuse, and often times it is much faster than the plex client against the same server.

Normally you post a question and someone posts an answer. Here someone has posted the answer and you have posted the question. Are we playing Jeopardy?

tmpz22 4y ago
Or to just say it - because the system has absurd complexity as proven by the hardware needed to run it.

ezfe 4y ago

While it doesn't take that long on my device, it probably is related to the fact that the iTunes store is over 20 years old and has the tech debt to prove it.

reaperducer 4y ago

How comes iTunes movies takes minutes to display a list on Apple TV, feels like minutes all the time? I just fired up the iTunes Movies app on my AppleTV for the first time so no cache (I only watch my DVD/Blu-Ray rips), and the app started and loaded a full list of movies in a little under 3.5 seconds. If it takes you minutes, it sounds like PEBKAC.

vonseel 4y ago
Idk. Apple search APIs seem slower than competitors often; my non-tech family members have made similar comments to me about Apple Music and Apple TV+ being slower than Netflix (or Prime) / Spotify.
- reaperducer 4y ago
  But the OP specified iTunes Movies, which is not AppleTV+ or Apple Music.
jerrysievert 4y ago
to be fair, I have a fairly large iTunes purchased back-catalog of tv series and movies - when I go to view the index of them on a gigabit network, it takes more time than I would expect it to. latest appletv. but, if I hit play, it's instantaneous and I'm surprised at the quality (plus they've upgraded a ton of my purchases to 4k when I bought them at whatever I could) if I contrast that to local plex, the plex meta-data is instantaneous, but I find it amusing that the appletv videos start more quickly. plex îs local cache, usually still in memory, apple is building my stuff from legacy iTunes data that I doubt they cache forever for me. that said, I think I'm ok with the tradeoff for the most part.
- vonseel 4y ago
  Yea, it's amazing how quickly videos stream from most services. If your Plex videos are taking a while to start, might be an issue with your client or server setup. Are the disk drives sleeping so they have to spin up, are they slow for some other reason, etc. My storage is all on spinning disk on 8+ year old hardware and I don't have any issues, except with certain slow clients.
  - jerrysievert 4y ago
    the slowdown is with 4k movies - all codec (audio/video) match so no transcoding, plex runs in a vm with 4 typically idle cpu's allocated, and disks are cached with ssd's on a synology. still the slowest of the players I watch. you can use infuse, and often times it is much faster than the plex client against the same server.