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Well, the vast majority of Europe builds concrete homes. We definitely get insulation, internal plumbing and wiring.

inglor_cz 4y ago
Individual homes in Europe are typically built from bricks, with concrete used for foundations/floors/ceilings. The work around internal plumbing and wiring is messy, though. A lot of abrasive brick dust is generated. I wouldn't want to be the guy doing this stuff. In a 3D printed home, nice empty spaces could be left in the wall while printing for all the necessary networks.
- pjerem 4y ago
  In modern european homes, plumbing and wiring is done via "octopuses". Most of the time, every connection coming from the exterior are coming through the floor in a little room that we can use for storage and from there, everything is dispatched through inner walls which are basically empty (except around bedrooms if you want acoustic isolation). This allows to maintain everything from the inside. I wouldn't call it a mess but I'll acknowledge I'm talking about modern constructions.
  - inglor_cz 4y ago
    I was just watching the construction of my new home and they drilled into the brick walls all the time. [0] None of the walls were empty, all were solid brick with no empty space. It was quite a mess, though the guys doing the job were very professional and handled the dust disposal very well. [0] https://imgur.com/a/A3i1ANg https://imgur.com/a/A3i1ANg
    - pjerem 4y ago
      wow ! In which country are you ? I've never seen something like this in France.
      - inglor_cz 4y ago
        The Czech Republic. I have seen this in all homes under construction that I saw, except for wooden ones. Granted, it is a small set, N < 10.
        pjerem 4y ago
        I didnt noticed that it was a picture of your inner walls. In France, we only use bricks/concrete for the structural walls. The inner walls are almost always "placo" mounted on steel rails. It looks like this : https://www.monsieurpeinture.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Placo-ou-Placoplatre-Pose--2048x1152.jpg https://www.monsieurpeinture.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/... or https://www.monsieurpeinture.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Placo-ou-Placoplatre-Rails-metalliques-2048x1365.jpg https://www.monsieurpeinture.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/...
        inglor_cz 4y ago
        Interesting. This is how ceilings are done here, but I haven't seen a private home with walls like that. Offices, yes. This might be one of the reasons why Czech construction costs are so high. Expensive material everywhere.
        toast0 4y ago
        It looks like 'placo' is what USians call drywall or sheetrock. (pressed gypsum with a paper backing). We'd call those rails studs; low density residential construction is usually wood studs, but I've got a project going with metal studs because with current pricing trends it makes more sense; metal studs also require armoring electrical though, and there's some other issues depending on use case.
- retrobrandcool 4y ago
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Individual homes in Europe are typically built from bricks, with concrete used for foundations/floors/ceilings. The work around internal plumbing and wiring is messy, though. A lot of abrasive brick dust is generated. I wouldn't want to be the guy doing this stuff. In a 3D printed home, nice empty spaces could be left in the wall while printing for all the necessary networks.

pjerem 4y ago
In modern european homes, plumbing and wiring is done via "octopuses". Most of the time, every connection coming from the exterior are coming through the floor in a little room that we can use for storage and from there, everything is dispatched through inner walls which are basically empty (except around bedrooms if you want acoustic isolation). This allows to maintain everything from the inside. I wouldn't call it a mess but I'll acknowledge I'm talking about modern constructions.
- inglor_cz 4y ago
  I was just watching the construction of my new home and they drilled into the brick walls all the time. [0] None of the walls were empty, all were solid brick with no empty space. It was quite a mess, though the guys doing the job were very professional and handled the dust disposal very well. [0] https://imgur.com/a/A3i1ANg https://imgur.com/a/A3i1ANg
  - pjerem 4y ago
    wow ! In which country are you ? I've never seen something like this in France.
    - inglor_cz 4y ago
      The Czech Republic. I have seen this in all homes under construction that I saw, except for wooden ones. Granted, it is a small set, N < 10.
      - pjerem 4y ago
        I didnt noticed that it was a picture of your inner walls. In France, we only use bricks/concrete for the structural walls. The inner walls are almost always "placo" mounted on steel rails. It looks like this : https://www.monsieurpeinture.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Placo-ou-Placoplatre-Pose--2048x1152.jpg https://www.monsieurpeinture.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/... or https://www.monsieurpeinture.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Placo-ou-Placoplatre-Rails-metalliques-2048x1365.jpg https://www.monsieurpeinture.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/...
        inglor_cz 4y ago
        Interesting. This is how ceilings are done here, but I haven't seen a private home with walls like that. Offices, yes. This might be one of the reasons why Czech construction costs are so high. Expensive material everywhere.
        toast0 4y ago
        It looks like 'placo' is what USians call drywall or sheetrock. (pressed gypsum with a paper backing). We'd call those rails studs; low density residential construction is usually wood studs, but I've got a project going with metal studs because with current pricing trends it makes more sense; metal studs also require armoring electrical though, and there's some other issues depending on use case.
retrobrandcool 4y ago
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