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Show HN: Earn 9.62% on US Treasury I Bonds on Yotta
Hey all
My name is Adam, and I’m a co-founder at Yotta (YC S20), an app that uses behavioral psychology to help people save money by making saving exciting.
We built a feature on Yotta where you can earn 9.62% APY via US Treasury I Bonds. (https://www.withyotta.com/i-bonds)
This is an absurd yield for a security that is backed by the full faith and credit of the United States Government - the strongest guarantee you can get. For comparison, most high-yield savings accounts with FDIC coverage are paying ~2%.
The backstory:
I Bonds were established by the US Treasury in 1998 to provide returns linked to inflation to protect consumer purchasing power. The rate on I Bonds is determined from the last six months of CPI data and is adjusted twice per year. Inflation is typically around 2% per year, so I Bonds have never been relevant since the rate was never that attractive.
Inflation spiked in 2022 driving I Bonds reached a record high yield of 9.62% APY. If you buy them by October 31st, you lock in this rate for six months from the purchase date. In the last 12 months, around $27B has been deposited as a result of the insanely high yield. This compares to $348m in 2020. Note that you have to hold I Bonds for at least a year and you forgo 3 the last three months of earned interest if you redeem before five years. You can deposit a max of $10k into I Bonds per calendar year.
So if you can get 9.62% APY on a government backed security when savings accounts are yielding 2%, why doesn’t everyone have I Bonds?
A few reasons.
1. Most people have never heard of them.
2. People don’t want to tie up cash for a year in a CD-like product.
3. The only way to buy I Bonds has been on the world’s worst website, Treasury Direct. You have to fill out long forms, click on a virtual keyboard to type your password, can’t use the back button, and make one mistake and you get locked out of your account. The whole thing is a colossal pain in the ass.
To solve 1) and 3), we wrapped an easy-to-use UI to buy I Bonds within Yotta. Users opt into Yotta creating a Treasury Direct account on their behalf, and we automate the painful part - interacting with Treasury Direct on the backend. This enables us to provide a great customer experience, making it easy for people to get the 9.62%. If anyone wants to control their Treasury Direct directly without Yotta, they can request it, and we will transfer over their account to no longer be managed by Yotta.
Hope you guys check it out and can take advantage of the 9.62% rate before 10/31! Note that if you already have a Treasury Direct account, we are unable to support you for I Bonds unfortunately.
Happy to answer any questions and looking forward to any feedback.
P.S. We were featured in Bloomberg for the launch last week if you want to check that out https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-09-28/buying-i-bonds-there-s-an-easier-way-to-earn-9-62-interest
- brk 4y agoMy wife and I both bought I Bonds directly. It was not exactly a painful or confusing process at all. Granted, the UI/UX of the US government bonds website was not fantastic, but it was certainly usable.
- adammoelis 4y agoGlad you didn't have to deal with any of Treasury Direct's nonsense. If you make a mistake logging in, you have to wait on hold with customer support for around 2 hours.
- Rebelgecko 4y agoOther than their goofy login page (which you can fix with a 1-liner in greasemonkey), I actually love the TreasuryDirect website. This is maybe a controversial opinion but it's one of my favorite US government websites. The UX is awesome and the layout is simple: no popups, interstitials or other BS. Even better, the page load times and responsiveness are significantly better than any other financial website a visit. I can check log in AND check my TreasuryDirect balance in about the same time it takes me to log into my Schwab brokerage account or load a thread on Reddit. Their FAQs are also written in an easily understandable way, which is good because I Bonds and the other bonds they sell have some complicated nuances. They even update the FAQs regularly so that all their I Bond example calculations use the current semiannual interest rate. One thing that would be cool about this Yotta offering is if they automate some of the I Bond annoyances (I needed a medallion stamp to open my account although not everyone is that unlucky), give a consolidated view of purchases and holdings across across multiple SSNs and EINs, and centralize that management.
- adammoelis 4y agoThanks for the feedback and thoughts. I guess those aspects of TD are nice, but if you ever make a mistake, they don't handle it gracefully.
- Rebelgecko 4y ago