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At this point, there's been - Inadvertent climate modification* - Global Warming - Anthropogenic Global Warming - Global Heating - Climate Change - Climat

by geenew 4y ago

At this point, there's been - Inadvertent climate modification* - Global Warming - Anthropogenic Global Warming - Global Heating - Climate Change - Climate Crisis - Climate Emergency I don't disagree with the thrust of your point, but the same argument you make against 'climate change' could also be made against 'climate destabilizaiton', since destabilization can have human and non-human causes (for example, the rise of plant life, asteroids, or the periodic advancement and retreat of the glaciers).. The first term in the list above seems to capture the point a bit better, since 'inadvertent' strongly implies human agency is involved. In practice, 'human caused' is implied in the terms 'global warming' and 'climate change'. For my money it's better to stick with those terms, and add 'anthropogenic' if there is potential for confusion. * Thanks, wikipedia!

_8j50 4y ago
A lot of people (anti-vaxx types) don't buy it because of supposed incorrect past predictions bu science, they believe science is misinterpreting the cause of the change, so it is important to emphasize that you are not unsure about the cause and it is a very serious thing. Most people believe things when people they trust say so, since they know they lack the expertise themselves. So getting important people, politicians, celebrities use the best possible term I think is crucial.
- HKH2 4y ago
  > So getting important people, politicians, celebrities use the best possible term I think is crucial. Getting them to be consistent in their messaging is even more important.
  - _8j50 4y ago
    I agree, but clarifying your message is not being inconsistent.
  - t0bia_s 4y ago
    Propaganda never works.
    - _8j50 4y ago
      Umm... it works very well on most people, that's why i lt exists. If you doubt this, examine your own beliefs and look for propaganda.
      - t0bia_s 4y ago
        It works temporarily. I prefer education.
amelius 4y ago
"Artificial climate change", then?
landemva 4y ago
Three decades of cooling was a concern. No End in Sight to 30 Year Cooling Trend https://www.nytimes.com/1978/01/05/archives/international-team-of-specialists-finds-no-end-in-sight-to-30year.html https://www.nytimes.com/1978/01/05/archives/international-te...
- tim333 4y ago
  That was a bit of a blip in the data. It has been warming in general in recent times.

by geenew 4y ago

_8j50 4y ago

A lot of people (anti-vaxx types) don't buy it because of supposed incorrect past predictions bu science, they believe science is misinterpreting the cause of the change, so it is important to emphasize that you are not unsure about the cause and it is a very serious thing. Most people believe things when people they trust say so, since they know they lack the expertise themselves. So getting important people, politicians, celebrities use the best possible term I think is crucial.

HKH2 4y ago
> So getting important people, politicians, celebrities use the best possible term I think is crucial. Getting them to be consistent in their messaging is even more important.
- _8j50 4y ago
  I agree, but clarifying your message is not being inconsistent.
- t0bia_s 4y ago
  Propaganda never works.
  - _8j50 4y ago
    Umm... it works very well on most people, that's why i lt exists. If you doubt this, examine your own beliefs and look for propaganda.
    - t0bia_s 4y ago
      It works temporarily. I prefer education.

amelius 4y ago

"Artificial climate change", then?

landemva 4y ago

Three decades of cooling was a concern. No End in Sight to 30 Year Cooling Trend https://www.nytimes.com/1978/01/05/archives/international-team-of-specialists-finds-no-end-in-sight-to-30year.html https://www.nytimes.com/1978/01/05/archives/international-te...

tim333 4y ago
That was a bit of a blip in the data. It has been warming in general in recent times.