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And 550 other companies, working on a standard. This kind of response is harmful. Google is not all bad. Orgs are complex entities with a lot of competing inte

And 550 other companies, working on a standard. This kind of response is harmful. Google is not all bad. Orgs are complex entities with a lot of competing interests. Using shit-colored shades exclusively to view anything is too limiting & sad a way to go.

Nextgrid 4y ago
How many companies are involved in the USB-C debacle? It seems to me like there's many companies involved with different and competing interests, yet nobody is sounding the alarm bell over USB-C 5 Pro Max SuperSpeed 2x2 10G.
mnd999 4y ago
Google is pretty bad, and there’s no way I would buy any Google manufactured device (hunk of e-waste?) Your point is valid though, there are hundreds of other companies involved in this standard, many of them will make fantastic devices and there’s no reason to ignore them all because of one bad vendor.
- smoldesu 4y ago
  If you want software to improve, you need to encourage companies working together on initiatives like this. Both Google and Apple suffer from this lack of communication, and it's led to shitty protocols time-after-time. If we start with Matter, maybe we can break down other arbitrary barriers like iMessage and the App Store/Play Store. Then we don't have to resort to antitrust litigation!
- joezydeco 4y ago
  The "one bad vendor" is the gatekeeper for 50% of the mobile device hardware space. If you take a wild guess and assume that most people will interact with home automation through their handhelds, and 100% of them will when away from home and their house hubs, then that "one bad vendor" could seriously crater the health of the ecosystem.
croes 4y ago
Maybe be it's not all bad but it gets worse
joezydeco 4y ago
No, it's a warning. If Google's enthusiasm for this protocol makes or breaks Android compatibility with Matter, what happens when (not if) they walk away? I don't trust Apple and Amazon to keep the faith either, but Mountain View is the weakest link here.

Nextgrid 4y ago

How many companies are involved in the USB-C debacle? It seems to me like there's many companies involved with different and competing interests, yet nobody is sounding the alarm bell over USB-C 5 Pro Max SuperSpeed 2x2 10G.

mnd999 4y ago

Google is pretty bad, and there’s no way I would buy any Google manufactured device (hunk of e-waste?) Your point is valid though, there are hundreds of other companies involved in this standard, many of them will make fantastic devices and there’s no reason to ignore them all because of one bad vendor.

smoldesu 4y ago
If you want software to improve, you need to encourage companies working together on initiatives like this. Both Google and Apple suffer from this lack of communication, and it's led to shitty protocols time-after-time. If we start with Matter, maybe we can break down other arbitrary barriers like iMessage and the App Store/Play Store. Then we don't have to resort to antitrust litigation!
joezydeco 4y ago
The "one bad vendor" is the gatekeeper for 50% of the mobile device hardware space. If you take a wild guess and assume that most people will interact with home automation through their handhelds, and 100% of them will when away from home and their house hubs, then that "one bad vendor" could seriously crater the health of the ecosystem.

croes 4y ago

Maybe be it's not all bad but it gets worse

joezydeco 4y ago

No, it's a warning. If Google's enthusiasm for this protocol makes or breaks Android compatibility with Matter, what happens when (not if) they walk away? I don't trust Apple and Amazon to keep the faith either, but Mountain View is the weakest link here.