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USB-C is just a connector. If we follow this logic, the EU should also mandate which aspects of USB-C PD are required to be supported and enforce that. Otherwi

by jwr 4y ago

USB-C is just a connector. If we follow this logic, the EU should also mandate which aspects of USB-C PD are required to be supported and enforce that. Otherwise we'll end up with a slew of devices without even the required 5.1k resistors, which can't charge from PD-compliant adapters, but can be charged using a USB-A to USB-C cable. As an EU citizen, while I do agree that regulation is often required (it did wonders for our roaming charges!), I do not like this development.

arcticbull 4y ago
I'd argue this is actually great. It's extremely unlikely that type-C connectors would charge from anything other than the in-built charging standard (if for no other reason than physical compatibility) but all the extra pins make it extremely flexible. The Lightning pins can just be routed out of the USB-C connector in a compliant way via alt-mode.
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markus92 4y ago
USB-PD is mandated in this directive! The EU press release specifically states any device will be able to charge at the same speed if cable/charger support it. See https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20220930IPR41928/long-awaited-common-charger-for-mobile-devices-will-be-a-reality-in-2024 https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20220930IP...
crote 4y ago
They do mandate USB PD, actually! The law [0] reads: > In so far as they are capable of being recharged by means of wired charging at voltages higher than 5 Volts, currents higher than 3 Amperes or powers higher than 15 Watts, the categories or classes of radio equipment referred to in point 1 of this Part shall: > 3.1. incorporate the USB Power Delivery, as described in the standard EN IEC 62680-1-2:2021 “Universal serial bus interfaces for data and power - Part 1-2: Common components - USB Power Delivery specification”; > 3.2. ensure that any additional charging protocol allows for the full functionality of the USB Power Delivery referred to in point 3.1., irrespective of the charging device used. As to devices supplying less than 15 Watts: the 5.1k resistors are already mandatory in the USB-C connector spec. [0]: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/TA-9-2022-0338_EN.pdf https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/TA-9-2022-0338... , page 35
- jwr 4y ago
  I stand corrected! In that case, I am much more happy about this.

by jwr 4y ago

arcticbull 4y ago

I'd argue this is actually great. It's extremely unlikely that type-C connectors would charge from anything other than the in-built charging standard (if for no other reason than physical compatibility) but all the extra pins make it extremely flexible. The Lightning pins can just be routed out of the USB-C connector in a compliant way via alt-mode.

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markus92 4y ago

USB-PD is mandated in this directive! The EU press release specifically states any device will be able to charge at the same speed if cable/charger support it. See https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20220930IPR41928/long-awaited-common-charger-for-mobile-devices-will-be-a-reality-in-2024 https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20220930IP...

crote 4y ago

They do mandate USB PD, actually! The law [0] reads: > In so far as they are capable of being recharged by means of wired charging at voltages higher than 5 Volts, currents higher than 3 Amperes or powers higher than 15 Watts, the categories or classes of radio equipment referred to in point 1 of this Part shall: > 3.1. incorporate the USB Power Delivery, as described in the standard EN IEC 62680-1-2:2021 “Universal serial bus interfaces for data and power - Part 1-2: Common components - USB Power Delivery specification”; > 3.2. ensure that any additional charging protocol allows for the full functionality of the USB Power Delivery referred to in point 3.1., irrespective of the charging device used. As to devices supplying less than 15 Watts: the 5.1k resistors are already mandatory in the USB-C connector spec. [0]: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/TA-9-2022-0338_EN.pdf https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/TA-9-2022-0338... , page 35

jwr 4y ago
I stand corrected! In that case, I am much more happy about this.