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Buy it already and be done with all drama. Let us see how Elon turn Twitter into a good or bad product ;) I am unsure if it is some master stroke or just, you k

Buy it already and be done with all drama. Let us see how Elon turn Twitter into a good or bad product ;) I am unsure if it is some master stroke or just, you know, another pump and dump schema. Maybe lawyers finally told Elon there is no exit strategy, and it is best to stick with teh original deal. Perhaps he finally figured out what to do with Twitter or got rid of cold feet. Who knows?

ejb999 4y ago
>>Let us see how Elon turn Twitter into a good or bad product He doesn't need to do anything to turn it into a bad product - its already cesspool. Real question is will he be able to make it better?
- simonswords82 4y ago
  Based on the conversations between him and Dorsey, how fucked Twitter is which gives him little to build on, and how distracted Elon is by various other things I doubt it very much. This is a very expensive hobby project for a billionaire that’s going to fail. Just my view and I would love to be proven wrong
- andrei_says_ 4y ago
  Honest question: what are some ways Twitter could be better? I am having a hard time imagining a clear direction.
  - joshstrange 4y ago
    "Better" for who? I can't see almost anything Twitter has done in the last decade as being "better". Off the top of my head: * Killing off tons of client by their changes to the API * Switching to algorithmic timeline instead of chronological * Infesting my timeline with "X like this post", "You might also like", and a ton of ads * Horrible UI for viewing threads even though it's now better supported (ability to tweet a whole thread from the official UI) * Podcasts‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽ * Twitter Blue, I still have no clue who uses this or why * Moments or Topics (or whatever that one tab in the official app is) * Their clone of that "podcasts but worse" service that I've already forgotten about. (Spaces! I had to go look it up) Other than increasing the character limit (ok, there was 1 thing) there isn't a single thing they've done recently (or over the last decade) that I can point to and say "That made Twitter better!". It to the point that you have to be sadist to use their official clients, every time I open the website or the official client I get frustrated. Now if you just care about stockholders then sure, shoving a ton of ads in your feed and filling your feed with people you don't follow or care about probably makes sense, in the short term, because that's all stockholders care about.
    - dawnerd 4y ago
      I pay for twitter blue just to get rid of the spaces icon in the nav bar. I don’t want to listen to what people have to say and it doesn’t need to constantly be in my face.
    - francogt 4y ago
      I too think these changes weren’t better. Wouldn’t going back on most of these constitute a “better” twitter?
    - beefalo 4y ago
      Only mentioned can reply was a good feature add
  - unsupp0rted 4y ago
    It could be better in some of the ways HN is better. By encouraging intellectual curiosity, discouraging low effort put-downs that call everybody Hitler, etc. And by hiring @Dang or a clone of him to make the most visible judgement calls, like what to do in the Hunter Biden scenario or whether to ban a sitting president for lying, for instance.
    - topspin 4y ago
      > like what to do in the Hunter Biden scenario or whether to ban a sitting president for lying, for instance. Why go back so far? As of four days ago all you need to get ban hammered on Twitter is win an election: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33038614 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33038614
  - abudabi123 4y ago
    Twitter will be better minus the special operation bots a technically sophisticated person like Elon Musk won't let Wallstreet wolf reporting pull the wool over peoples's eyes. Elon Musk speaks of the economy in the limit, is that a clear enough direction?
- tayo42 4y ago
  What does better mean?
- TigeriusKirk 4y ago
  I think Twitter has the most unrealized potential of any of the big tech companies. The present team was completely unable to get there, and seemingly unable to even see there was wasted potential. Musk does at least see it could be better. I'm not convinced he can get it right, but it's better than the stagnant place the company has been in for years.
justapassenger 4y ago
Have you seen his ideas from the texts during discovery? He plans to fix Twitter by having people pay with Doge for each tweet.
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 4y ago
  > He plans to fix Twitter by having people pay with Doge for each tweet. I haven't seen the texts but it seems very likely that this language is too strong. "He has proposed ..." is probably a more reasonable way to put it. I would say that it would be batshit but it's probably not a batshit plan, and I do not think the distinction is trivial.

ejb999 4y ago

>>Let us see how Elon turn Twitter into a good or bad product He doesn't need to do anything to turn it into a bad product - its already cesspool. Real question is will he be able to make it better?

simonswords82 4y ago
Based on the conversations between him and Dorsey, how fucked Twitter is which gives him little to build on, and how distracted Elon is by various other things I doubt it very much. This is a very expensive hobby project for a billionaire that’s going to fail. Just my view and I would love to be proven wrong
andrei_says_ 4y ago
Honest question: what are some ways Twitter could be better? I am having a hard time imagining a clear direction.
- joshstrange 4y ago
  "Better" for who? I can't see almost anything Twitter has done in the last decade as being "better". Off the top of my head: * Killing off tons of client by their changes to the API * Switching to algorithmic timeline instead of chronological * Infesting my timeline with "X like this post", "You might also like", and a ton of ads * Horrible UI for viewing threads even though it's now better supported (ability to tweet a whole thread from the official UI) * Podcasts‽‽‽‽‽‽‽‽ * Twitter Blue, I still have no clue who uses this or why * Moments or Topics (or whatever that one tab in the official app is) * Their clone of that "podcasts but worse" service that I've already forgotten about. (Spaces! I had to go look it up) Other than increasing the character limit (ok, there was 1 thing) there isn't a single thing they've done recently (or over the last decade) that I can point to and say "That made Twitter better!". It to the point that you have to be sadist to use their official clients, every time I open the website or the official client I get frustrated. Now if you just care about stockholders then sure, shoving a ton of ads in your feed and filling your feed with people you don't follow or care about probably makes sense, in the short term, because that's all stockholders care about.
  - dawnerd 4y ago
    I pay for twitter blue just to get rid of the spaces icon in the nav bar. I don’t want to listen to what people have to say and it doesn’t need to constantly be in my face.
  - francogt 4y ago
    I too think these changes weren’t better. Wouldn’t going back on most of these constitute a “better” twitter?
  - beefalo 4y ago
    Only mentioned can reply was a good feature add
- unsupp0rted 4y ago
  It could be better in some of the ways HN is better. By encouraging intellectual curiosity, discouraging low effort put-downs that call everybody Hitler, etc. And by hiring @Dang or a clone of him to make the most visible judgement calls, like what to do in the Hunter Biden scenario or whether to ban a sitting president for lying, for instance.
  - topspin 4y ago
    > like what to do in the Hunter Biden scenario or whether to ban a sitting president for lying, for instance. Why go back so far? As of four days ago all you need to get ban hammered on Twitter is win an election: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33038614 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33038614
- abudabi123 4y ago
  Twitter will be better minus the special operation bots a technically sophisticated person like Elon Musk won't let Wallstreet wolf reporting pull the wool over peoples's eyes. Elon Musk speaks of the economy in the limit, is that a clear enough direction?
tayo42 4y ago
What does better mean?
TigeriusKirk 4y ago
I think Twitter has the most unrealized potential of any of the big tech companies. The present team was completely unable to get there, and seemingly unable to even see there was wasted potential. Musk does at least see it could be better. I'm not convinced he can get it right, but it's better than the stagnant place the company has been in for years.

justapassenger 4y ago

Have you seen his ideas from the texts during discovery? He plans to fix Twitter by having people pay with Doge for each tweet.

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 4y ago
> He plans to fix Twitter by having people pay with Doge for each tweet. I haven't seen the texts but it seems very likely that this language is too strong. "He has proposed ..." is probably a more reasonable way to put it. I would say that it would be batshit but it's probably not a batshit plan, and I do not think the distinction is trivial.