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The fact that you dismiss herbs, the very basis of most modern pharmacology, suggests to me that you have an axe to grind.
by canadiantim 4y ago
The fact that you dismiss herbs, the very basis of most modern pharmacology, suggests to me that you have an axe to grind.
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- JTbane 4y agoHomeopathy usually refers to the claims that dilution of an herb makes the medical effects stronger, which is ridiculous. That poster wasn't denying that herbal medicine could be useful, as many herbs do have chemicals that are biologically active.
- MarkSweep 4y agoHomeopathy is not herbs. It is just water: “Homeopathic preparations are termed remedies and are made using homeopathic dilution. In this process, the selected substance is repeatedly diluted until the final product is chemically indistinguishable from the diluent. Often not even a single molecule of the original substance can be expected to remain in the product.” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathy
- Nicksil 4y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeopathy
- boomboomsubban 4y agoHomeopathy isn't herbs, but the person the commenter was replying to dismissed herbal medicine in their post.
- pif 4y agoYou are not alone in this confusion. I though "homeopathy" meant "medicine based on herbs" for a few decades, and I'm sure we are not alone, and this may explain why so many people buy products that are based on a mix of idiocy and nothingness.
- dekhn 4y agoThey don't dismiss herbs.
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- canadiantim 4y ago"Like at least herbal remedies... have a somewhat plausible (but wrong) mechanism of action"
- dekhn 4y agoWhich reads as "they work, but the people promoting them don't know how". I mean, the classic example would be willow bark as a pain reliever. I doubt anybody who understood that it appeared to be an effect pain reliever knew much about COX1 and COX2 inhibitors.
- zardo 4y agoI read that as, it's plausible that an herbal medicine could work, but in reality they don't.
- smsm42 4y agoThat sounds accurate. Plants do have tons of chemicals, some of them may have very potent effects on the body chemistry. Unlike homeopathy where the proposed effect model defies physics, there's nothing implausible here, the problem with herbal remedies may be that ingesting a very complex cocktail of chemicals and thinking "it's fine because it's natural" is not always the best approach. It's usually not easy to properly understand what happens when ingesting such mixtures. Evolutionary, things that are very likely to seriously hurt you have been probably excluded by now, but it's still pretty poorly understood what exactly is going on when you use some "natural herbal mix". So, anybody who makes bold claims about what exactly is the action of this or that herbal remedy, usually is not painting the whole picture.
- lalaland1125 4y agoYeah, I should have been more clear, fixed by adding the adjective "ineffective". Some herbal remedies work, but a ton don't and are almost completely untested.