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Hckr news – Hacker News sorted by time

168 points by punnerud 4y ago

matt_oriordan 4y ago
Been using this site for years, it's a far better way of consuming HN IMHO
coryfklein 4y ago
Love hckr news, it has basically replaced the "front page" of Hacker News for me. So much easier to find the top/relevant/most discussed stories at a glance, particularly for last week's news!
- jillesvangurp 4y ago
  I just saw this for the first time. It seems to address a lot of issues with hacker news that I never liked. Including the hands off / casual attittude to usability and design. Tiny fonts, fiddly links, etc. Try using it on a mobile browser. It sucks. This is the same content but with a better and responsive design. And by that I don't just mean how it looks but the core functionality of the site. How it looks is actually pretty minimalistic and clean. Finding stuff back on HN is tricky because the page changes all the time and the items re-order and disappear. This gets rid of that by sorting by time. And then you can narrow it down with top 10% and top 50%. So simple and effective. I loved Twitter and Facebook a lot more before they decided to be "clever" and hired a lot of machine learning propeller heads that completely ruined the experience by trying to second guess what I should be seeing and not seeing (which mostly serves their needs rather than mine). HN of course has a much more simplistic algorithm of some formula involving time, upvotes, and number of comments. It works in combination with the old school paged list of stuff where the page size was set in stone to 30. It creates a sense of urgency for people to get their link on the front page. It's prime real-estate and it replaced slashdot in that sense. This seems to keep the best parts of that by simply sorting by time and getting rid of the 30 items per page thing with a more modern design. You can simply scroll back as far as you want and still benefit from the "frontpage" notion by filtering.
  - eyelidlessness 4y ago
    > Try using it on a mobile browser. It sucks. I’d been gradually customizing it on my phone by using an inspector extension and a custom CSS extension. Recently another poster shared a more thorough stylesheet, so I switched to that. It wasn’t entirely my preference but it’s close enough that I was satisfied to stop trying to customize someone else’s website on my phone. Well, since then one thing after another has started getting smaller and closer together again, presumably as selectors change for other purposes. I’ve previously built a dark mode extension that I won’t link because it’s also broken now. I’d love to actually contribute mobile friendly styles that people could opt into. But as far as I can tell HN is intended to be used by people with perfect eyesight and perfect hand eye coordination with a mouse on a good desk surface and a large screen.
- marak830 4y ago
  I've been using hckrnews since it came out I think. So much better on mobile.
akvadrako 4y ago
I only browse hacker news via this site. Time sorting is just so much better than magic algorithms.
- AH4oFVbPT4f8 4y ago
  That and octal for iOS.
- soneil 4y ago
  RSS is pretty good for this, or works for me at least. The only minor annoyance is that when a title is edited, it shows up in the feed as a new duplicate.
- Thorrez 4y ago
  The ordering isn't magic, but there's still magic in its choice of what to include. It includes anything that made it to HN's front page, which is based on the magic you mention.
- drcongo 4y ago
  Same.
jasonpeacock 4y ago
It sorts by time and shows new stories since I last visited. That's the killer feature, it's amazing what a little cookie can do to vastly improve the user experience.
threatofrain 4y ago
Custom views offers a very different perspective of what is "front page" for Hacker News, and it severely interacts with the argument of how the front page ought be curated. IMO most consumer apps and feed-like experiences should offer custom views for those who care for something other than an officially curated experience.
- metadat 4y ago
  There are other views: https://news.ycombinator.com/lists https://news.ycombinator.com/lists Not so customizable, though.
  - busymom0 4y ago
    My HACK app provides all those (and a few additional views which aren't listed on that page) plus chronological views which can be filtered by Daily, Weekly, Monthly, Yearly. You can also filter for posts with 100, 200, 300, 400 or 500 points. Also sends push notifications for when someone replies/comments to your post/comment. Screenshots: https://imgur.com/a/I8MCYjV https://imgur.com/a/I8MCYjV iOS, iPadOS and MacOS: https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/hack-for-hacker-news-reader/id1464477788 https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/hack-for-hacker-news-reader/id... Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pranapps.hack https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pranapps.h...
    - tapvt 4y ago
      Just downloaded this, and it is quite pleasant to use. Nice work!
    - therealdrag0 4y ago
      I tried a bunch of apps a while ago and this is the best one. HACK is awesome thanks for it, and being so responsive to emails!!
    - nodomain 4y ago
      Nice one. It would be even nicer if it behaved more like a MacOS app, eg. Cmd-, for settings :)
hirundo 4y ago
Dear Hckr news, I'm one of those overly curious weirdoes who just has to know what every `DEAD undefined` is for, so now I have to click through on each. You used to display the headlines, and I could dismiss most of them by doing nothing. Could you put back the dead headlines? Kudos for including post mortems in the feed at all though! Many would not.
iterm2 4y ago
Love this. Not sure how the hacker news team would react to this. Looks like hckrnews.com is going to be my default go to site from now on.
- williamstein 4y ago
  I started using this hckrnews.com about 3-4 years ago, and it is fantastic. I really love it.
wespeng 4y ago
I like this. it's more clear design in UI.
0xbadcafebee 4y ago
Finally, Hacker News gets closer to Slashdot. Now all we need is abstracts for stories, and the karma system that lets people communicate what their vote means.
- yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
  > that lets people communicate what their vote means. Honestly that'd be nice. I don't know about details, but some way to know why a comment is gray would be nice.
  - busymom0 4y ago
    Usually comments are grayed out if either it's been downvoted a lot (some sort of upvote to downvote ratio) or if it's been "FLAGGED" or "DEAD".
    - yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
      Sorry, perhaps I phrased that poorly. I understand that gray is a sign of negative score; I mean to say that it would be helpful to have an understanding of why a comment has been downvoted. Sometimes it's clear; some comments are rude, unhelpful, factually incorrect, etc. But sometimes it's not clear at all: Did people just disagree? Is there a factual error that I can't see? Sometimes grayed-out comments with no replies are really frustrating, because I can't see why they got downvoted. Slashdot's system is nice in that it at least makes people give a hint as to why a comment was downmodded. (I'm not saying I strongly want that system specifically, just something to provide more signal.)
  - insightcheck 4y ago
    You can learn about this on a post on GitHub about much (but not all) of HN's undocumented behavior [1]: "All comments start with a score of 1 point (but in order to prevent bandwagoning, the comment score is not visible to users other than the author). After users reach 501 Karma, they gain the ability to downvote another comment. Downvoted comments (i.e. with a score < 1) reduce their placement on the comment thread and will appear desaturated to other users deemphasize them." [1] https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented#downvoting-comments https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented#downvo...
djha-skin 4y ago
Confused. How is this different than just the `new` link on HN?
- falcolas 4y ago
  It only shows topics that hit the front page at least once.
ComputerGuru 4y ago
Flagged articles aren't removed or shaded differently on this alternative frontend, which is a huge waste of time.
- behnamoh 4y ago
  I actually like that because sometimes flagged posts are just an unpopular opinion which I'd like to hear.
  - eyelidlessness 4y ago
    Browsing with showdead is weirdly revealing. Most dead comments I see are inflammatory but some are just unpopular takes. Often I disagree with them too but I’m glad I see them. Most dead top level posts are dead for no apparent reason, and seem to have been dead on arrival. They often look like reasonable submissions, at least browsing shownew which I do regularly. I’d even vouch for many of them but there’s no context for why they’re DOA and I have enough disagreements with HN moderation without blindly going on a vouching spree against mysterious judgments.
- cyounkins 4y ago
  Are flagged and dead the same? There's a "Show dead?" option in the settings.
  - busymom0 4y ago
    That setting only works on logged in hacker news accounts. Won’t work on third party sites unless they have access to your auth cookies.
    - akvadrako 4y ago
      hckrnews does show dead posts. It's only a link though - no title or scores.
      - ComputerGuru 4y ago
Not_Oles 4y ago
Thank you hckrnews! I read your time based feed every day. Usually more than once.
RosanaAnaDana 4y ago
dark mode?
- fwsgonzo 4y ago
  First thing I looked for too. Couldn't find it
- licyeus 4y ago
  I use stylish to apply my own (quick and easy) dark mode to hckr news: @media (prefers-color-scheme: dark) { body { background-color: #444; color: #ccc; } .entries a:hover { background-color: #666; } .c00 { color: #ccc; } a:link, .c00 a:link { color: #ddd; } textarea { background-color: #555; color: #ddd; } .pagetop { color: #ddd; } .pagetop a { color: #eee !important; } #hnmain > tbody:first-child > tr:first-child td { background-color: #630; } }
karmakaze 4y ago
Nicely done. I made one[0] for myself that splits by day, and otherwise orders by score within day, but grouped into categories and keywords (or site). Clicking the title shows yesterday's or older stories. It started out being a single page view that I could load while commuting in the subway that had intermittent Internet on my phone, and load several story links at each stop. I've since stopped commuting of course but still use it so I'm not playing dopamine slot machine. I still want to improve it to be able to categorize story groups lower (or suppress them) and surface niche stories that may not have made the front page but of non-mainstream interests that I (or others) may care about--perhaps with some sort of reader-driven tagging system. [0] https://hackerer.news https://hackerer.news
- 12907835202 4y ago
  I've been working on something like this for twitter. I need to keep track of twitter for work purposes but I don't want to login everyday. Having quick next/previous tabs for days plus sort by likes or comments is invaluable.
Existenceblinks 4y ago
While it's good, I somehow experience that it's harder to scan post titles than original site. It's probably numbers have the same contrast and in front of title, which makes it seems more important, thus, be distracted from scanning titles.
anonu 4y ago
I was a long time user of hckrnews.com until HN implemented the `past` link above for easy access... I realized I was missing things I was interested in by just filtering by top 10 in hckrnews.com.
keyle 4y ago
Been using this site for ages... It's kind of the last port of call when I've read most of the homepage and I'm not yet satisfied! Well done and straight to the point.
AnonC 4y ago
This has been my portal to get to HN for several years. Clean, with an easier to browse/scan interface (compared to bare HN), easy to find the posts with most votes and comments, and filtering options (which I rarely use). For some reason, I’ve found that I still miss some interesting posts with hckrnews. Maybe it’s because those posts have been pushed down in ranking over the hours I’m not checking or because I’m not using the available filters. So I still go to HN directly sometimes.
doe88 4y ago
Love it. Years I use it as my HN front page.
dethos 4y ago
I've been using it for ages, the "Top 20" and "Top 50%" filters are great. It turned out to be the "true" HN frontend for me.
Uninen 4y ago
I’ve been using Hckr news for years, it’s great! The only thing I really miss is dark mode.
duckmysick 4y ago
Looks clean, I love the top 20 and 50% filters. Is there a way to jump to a specific day? Let's say August 30th 2022. I see each day has a single GET request (for example https://hckrnews.com/data/20220830.js https://hckrnews.com/data/20220830.js) but it doesn't refresh the site.
- Leftium 4y ago
  My app uses the data from HckrNews: https://hw.leftium.com/#/date/20220830 https://hw.leftium.com/#/date/20220830 How my app processes a URL like https://hckrnews.com/data/20220830.js https://hckrnews.com/data/20220830.js: https://github.com/Leftium/hckrweb/blob/d3bfff14e89ffc1cd96c1b64683a5143f51befbc/assets/js/libs/hnapi.js#L194-L213 https://github.com/Leftium/hckrweb/blob/d3bfff14e89ffc1cd96c...
geon 4y ago
They should call it aceehknrsw.

168 points by punnerud 4y ago

Been using this site for years, it's a far better way of consuming HN IMHO

Love hckr news, it has basically replaced the "front page" of Hacker News for me. So much easier to find the top/relevant/most discussed stories at a glance, particularly for last week's news!

jillesvangurp 4y ago
I just saw this for the first time. It seems to address a lot of issues with hacker news that I never liked. Including the hands off / casual attittude to usability and design. Tiny fonts, fiddly links, etc. Try using it on a mobile browser. It sucks. This is the same content but with a better and responsive design. And by that I don't just mean how it looks but the core functionality of the site. How it looks is actually pretty minimalistic and clean. Finding stuff back on HN is tricky because the page changes all the time and the items re-order and disappear. This gets rid of that by sorting by time. And then you can narrow it down with top 10% and top 50%. So simple and effective. I loved Twitter and Facebook a lot more before they decided to be "clever" and hired a lot of machine learning propeller heads that completely ruined the experience by trying to second guess what I should be seeing and not seeing (which mostly serves their needs rather than mine). HN of course has a much more simplistic algorithm of some formula involving time, upvotes, and number of comments. It works in combination with the old school paged list of stuff where the page size was set in stone to 30. It creates a sense of urgency for people to get their link on the front page. It's prime real-estate and it replaced slashdot in that sense. This seems to keep the best parts of that by simply sorting by time and getting rid of the 30 items per page thing with a more modern design. You can simply scroll back as far as you want and still benefit from the "frontpage" notion by filtering.
- eyelidlessness 4y ago
  > Try using it on a mobile browser. It sucks. I’d been gradually customizing it on my phone by using an inspector extension and a custom CSS extension. Recently another poster shared a more thorough stylesheet, so I switched to that. It wasn’t entirely my preference but it’s close enough that I was satisfied to stop trying to customize someone else’s website on my phone. Well, since then one thing after another has started getting smaller and closer together again, presumably as selectors change for other purposes. I’ve previously built a dark mode extension that I won’t link because it’s also broken now. I’d love to actually contribute mobile friendly styles that people could opt into. But as far as I can tell HN is intended to be used by people with perfect eyesight and perfect hand eye coordination with a mouse on a good desk surface and a large screen.
marak830 4y ago
I've been using hckrnews since it came out I think. So much better on mobile.

akvadrako 4y ago

I only browse hacker news via this site. Time sorting is just so much better than magic algorithms.

AH4oFVbPT4f8 4y ago
That and octal for iOS.
soneil 4y ago
RSS is pretty good for this, or works for me at least. The only minor annoyance is that when a title is edited, it shows up in the feed as a new duplicate.
Thorrez 4y ago
The ordering isn't magic, but there's still magic in its choice of what to include. It includes anything that made it to HN's front page, which is based on the magic you mention.
drcongo 4y ago
Same.

jasonpeacock 4y ago

It sorts by time and shows new stories since I last visited. That's the killer feature, it's amazing what a little cookie can do to vastly improve the user experience.

threatofrain 4y ago

Custom views offers a very different perspective of what is "front page" for Hacker News, and it severely interacts with the argument of how the front page ought be curated. IMO most consumer apps and feed-like experiences should offer custom views for those who care for something other than an officially curated experience.

metadat 4y ago
There are other views: https://news.ycombinator.com/lists https://news.ycombinator.com/lists Not so customizable, though.
- busymom0 4y ago
  My HACK app provides all those (and a few additional views which aren't listed on that page) plus chronological views which can be filtered by Daily, Weekly, Monthly, Yearly. You can also filter for posts with 100, 200, 300, 400 or 500 points. Also sends push notifications for when someone replies/comments to your post/comment. Screenshots: https://imgur.com/a/I8MCYjV https://imgur.com/a/I8MCYjV iOS, iPadOS and MacOS: https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/hack-for-hacker-news-reader/id1464477788 https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/hack-for-hacker-news-reader/id... Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pranapps.hack https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pranapps.h...
  - tapvt 4y ago
    Just downloaded this, and it is quite pleasant to use. Nice work!
  - therealdrag0 4y ago
    I tried a bunch of apps a while ago and this is the best one. HACK is awesome thanks for it, and being so responsive to emails!!
  - nodomain 4y ago
    Nice one. It would be even nicer if it behaved more like a MacOS app, eg. Cmd-, for settings :)

hirundo 4y ago

Dear Hckr news, I'm one of those overly curious weirdoes who just has to know what every `DEAD undefined` is for, so now I have to click through on each. You used to display the headlines, and I could dismiss most of them by doing nothing. Could you put back the dead headlines? Kudos for including post mortems in the feed at all though! Many would not.

iterm2 4y ago

Love this. Not sure how the hacker news team would react to this. Looks like hckrnews.com is going to be my default go to site from now on.

williamstein 4y ago
I started using this hckrnews.com about 3-4 years ago, and it is fantastic. I really love it.

wespeng 4y ago

I like this. it's more clear design in UI.

0xbadcafebee 4y ago

Finally, Hacker News gets closer to Slashdot. Now all we need is abstracts for stories, and the karma system that lets people communicate what their vote means.

yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
> that lets people communicate what their vote means. Honestly that'd be nice. I don't know about details, but some way to know why a comment is gray would be nice.
- busymom0 4y ago
  Usually comments are grayed out if either it's been downvoted a lot (some sort of upvote to downvote ratio) or if it's been "FLAGGED" or "DEAD".
  - yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
    Sorry, perhaps I phrased that poorly. I understand that gray is a sign of negative score; I mean to say that it would be helpful to have an understanding of why a comment has been downvoted. Sometimes it's clear; some comments are rude, unhelpful, factually incorrect, etc. But sometimes it's not clear at all: Did people just disagree? Is there a factual error that I can't see? Sometimes grayed-out comments with no replies are really frustrating, because I can't see why they got downvoted. Slashdot's system is nice in that it at least makes people give a hint as to why a comment was downmodded. (I'm not saying I strongly want that system specifically, just something to provide more signal.)
- insightcheck 4y ago
  You can learn about this on a post on GitHub about much (but not all) of HN's undocumented behavior [1]: "All comments start with a score of 1 point (but in order to prevent bandwagoning, the comment score is not visible to users other than the author). After users reach 501 Karma, they gain the ability to downvote another comment. Downvoted comments (i.e. with a score < 1) reduce their placement on the comment thread and will appear desaturated to other users deemphasize them." [1] https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented#downvoting-comments https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented#downvo...

djha-skin 4y ago

Confused. How is this different than just the `new` link on HN?

falcolas 4y ago
It only shows topics that hit the front page at least once.

ComputerGuru 4y ago

Flagged articles aren't removed or shaded differently on this alternative frontend, which is a huge waste of time.

behnamoh 4y ago
I actually like that because sometimes flagged posts are just an unpopular opinion which I'd like to hear.
- eyelidlessness 4y ago
  Browsing with showdead is weirdly revealing. Most dead comments I see are inflammatory but some are just unpopular takes. Often I disagree with them too but I’m glad I see them. Most dead top level posts are dead for no apparent reason, and seem to have been dead on arrival. They often look like reasonable submissions, at least browsing shownew which I do regularly. I’d even vouch for many of them but there’s no context for why they’re DOA and I have enough disagreements with HN moderation without blindly going on a vouching spree against mysterious judgments.
cyounkins 4y ago
Are flagged and dead the same? There's a "Show dead?" option in the settings.
- busymom0 4y ago
  That setting only works on logged in hacker news accounts. Won’t work on third party sites unless they have access to your auth cookies.
  - akvadrako 4y ago
    hckrnews does show dead posts. It's only a link though - no title or scores.
    - ComputerGuru 4y ago

Not_Oles 4y ago

Thank you hckrnews! I read your time based feed every day. Usually more than once.

RosanaAnaDana 4y ago

dark mode?

fwsgonzo 4y ago
First thing I looked for too. Couldn't find it
licyeus 4y ago
I use stylish to apply my own (quick and easy) dark mode to hckr news: @media (prefers-color-scheme: dark) { body { background-color: #444; color: #ccc; } .entries a:hover { background-color: #666; } .c00 { color: #ccc; } a:link, .c00 a:link { color: #ddd; } textarea { background-color: #555; color: #ddd; } .pagetop { color: #ddd; } .pagetop a { color: #eee !important; } #hnmain > tbody:first-child > tr:first-child td { background-color: #630; } }

karmakaze 4y ago

Nicely done. I made one[0] for myself that splits by day, and otherwise orders by score within day, but grouped into categories and keywords (or site). Clicking the title shows yesterday's or older stories. It started out being a single page view that I could load while commuting in the subway that had intermittent Internet on my phone, and load several story links at each stop. I've since stopped commuting of course but still use it so I'm not playing dopamine slot machine. I still want to improve it to be able to categorize story groups lower (or suppress them) and surface niche stories that may not have made the front page but of non-mainstream interests that I (or others) may care about--perhaps with some sort of reader-driven tagging system. [0] https://hackerer.news https://hackerer.news

12907835202 4y ago
I've been working on something like this for twitter. I need to keep track of twitter for work purposes but I don't want to login everyday. Having quick next/previous tabs for days plus sort by likes or comments is invaluable.

Existenceblinks 4y ago

While it's good, I somehow experience that it's harder to scan post titles than original site. It's probably numbers have the same contrast and in front of title, which makes it seems more important, thus, be distracted from scanning titles.

anonu 4y ago

I was a long time user of hckrnews.com until HN implemented the `past` link above for easy access... I realized I was missing things I was interested in by just filtering by top 10 in hckrnews.com.

keyle 4y ago

Been using this site for ages... It's kind of the last port of call when I've read most of the homepage and I'm not yet satisfied! Well done and straight to the point.

AnonC 4y ago

This has been my portal to get to HN for several years. Clean, with an easier to browse/scan interface (compared to bare HN), easy to find the posts with most votes and comments, and filtering options (which I rarely use). For some reason, I’ve found that I still miss some interesting posts with hckrnews. Maybe it’s because those posts have been pushed down in ranking over the hours I’m not checking or because I’m not using the available filters. So I still go to HN directly sometimes.

doe88 4y ago

Love it. Years I use it as my HN front page.

dethos 4y ago

I've been using it for ages, the "Top 20" and "Top 50%" filters are great. It turned out to be the "true" HN frontend for me.

Uninen 4y ago

I’ve been using Hckr news for years, it’s great! The only thing I really miss is dark mode.

duckmysick 4y ago

Looks clean, I love the top 20 and 50% filters. Is there a way to jump to a specific day? Let's say August 30th 2022. I see each day has a single GET request (for example https://hckrnews.com/data/20220830.js https://hckrnews.com/data/20220830.js) but it doesn't refresh the site.

Leftium 4y ago
My app uses the data from HckrNews: https://hw.leftium.com/#/date/20220830 https://hw.leftium.com/#/date/20220830 How my app processes a URL like https://hckrnews.com/data/20220830.js https://hckrnews.com/data/20220830.js: https://github.com/Leftium/hckrweb/blob/d3bfff14e89ffc1cd96c1b64683a5143f51befbc/assets/js/libs/hnapi.js#L194-L213 https://github.com/Leftium/hckrweb/blob/d3bfff14e89ffc1cd96c...

geon 4y ago

They should call it aceehknrsw.