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Ubuntu, Fedora/RH and (open)SUSE have been the top desktop Linux distros for 20/30 years... Sure others come and go but there's been plenty of continuity. I a

Ubuntu, Fedora/RH and (open)SUSE have been the top desktop Linux distros for 20/30 years... Sure others come and go but there's been plenty of continuity. I also don't see Pop_OS supplanting any of the big 3...

solarkraft 4y ago
I can. Ubuntu is decreasing in quality and Pop OS is already being billed as the better Ubuntu. It has a good commercial backing and is slowly but surely gaining popularity due to its polish.
- ladyanita22 4y ago
  That won't happen. It's easier to fix Ubuntu than to fix Pop. Plus Canonical has just much better engineering and resources, and have been in this game for longer. The only reason People prefer Pop is because of its theme (I find it hideous, but to each their own), that it's marketed towards gamers (I don't think there are any significant performance differences between both) and that it comes with Flatpaks instead of Snaps. People just hate Ubuntu because of Snaps.
  - mmstick76 4y ago
    Larger organizations with a lot of salaries to pay are also typically risk averse and therefore much less willing to make huge bets on adventurous experiments into the unknown. I can also confidently say that most people using Pop aren't using it because of the theme, and Pop!_OS is actually marketed to STEM and developers rather than gamers. It's just that a lot of PC gamers like what Pop!_OS has to offer to them, so it seems that way by word of mouth.
mathstuf 4y ago
No, supplanting seems unlikely. But System76 also controls the release cycle for Pop_OS! whereas the others might not align with their hardware product releases. As long as they lean on an existing distro for the vast majority of software, it seems like a reasonable strategy to me.
MichaelCollins 4y ago
I've heard rumor that the future of OpenSUSE Leap is now in doubt. I think Ubuntu and Fedora are both unsuitable for this purpose too, because both have a track record of pushing out dodgy stuff before it's ready (like Fedora shipping SystemD in 2011.) And Ubuntu particularly has a track record of pushing shit that's obviously DOA, like Mir, Unity, or snap. At least when Fedora does something like ship SystemD before the kinks are worked out, what they chose does eventually become the mainstream. But you're still a guinea pig with Fedora, making it a poor choice for an OEM distro.
- Mikeb85 4y ago
  > I've heard rumor that the future of OpenSUSE Leap is now in doubt. Yes because the future is OpenSUSE MicroOS aka ALP. Rolling release, immutable system, all apps are containerized (Flatpak and Toolbox/Podman). Using it right now, easily best Linux desktop to date, even with a few bugs here and there. Ubuntu and Fedora, for all the bugs and shit they've pulled over the years, are still way more usable than pretty much any other Linux desktop outside the big 3...
goodpoint 4y ago
You forgot Debian, who was there before and it's essentially Ubuntu minus some cruft.
- Mikeb85 4y ago
  And with such outdated software it doesn't run on a laptop until it's ready to be replaced...
  - goodpoint 4y ago
    Not at all. For desktop use you can stay on Testing or Unstable which are just as up to date as any rolling distribution.
lproven 4y ago
The 1st release of Ubuntu was 4.10 in 2004. Perhaps you meant Debian? Red Hat and SUSE do go back nearly 30 years. Only Slackware is as old, AFAIK.

solarkraft 4y ago

I can. Ubuntu is decreasing in quality and Pop OS is already being billed as the better Ubuntu. It has a good commercial backing and is slowly but surely gaining popularity due to its polish.

ladyanita22 4y ago
That won't happen. It's easier to fix Ubuntu than to fix Pop. Plus Canonical has just much better engineering and resources, and have been in this game for longer. The only reason People prefer Pop is because of its theme (I find it hideous, but to each their own), that it's marketed towards gamers (I don't think there are any significant performance differences between both) and that it comes with Flatpaks instead of Snaps. People just hate Ubuntu because of Snaps.
- mmstick76 4y ago
  Larger organizations with a lot of salaries to pay are also typically risk averse and therefore much less willing to make huge bets on adventurous experiments into the unknown. I can also confidently say that most people using Pop aren't using it because of the theme, and Pop!_OS is actually marketed to STEM and developers rather than gamers. It's just that a lot of PC gamers like what Pop!_OS has to offer to them, so it seems that way by word of mouth.

mathstuf 4y ago

No, supplanting seems unlikely. But System76 also controls the release cycle for Pop_OS! whereas the others might not align with their hardware product releases. As long as they lean on an existing distro for the vast majority of software, it seems like a reasonable strategy to me.

MichaelCollins 4y ago

I've heard rumor that the future of OpenSUSE Leap is now in doubt. I think Ubuntu and Fedora are both unsuitable for this purpose too, because both have a track record of pushing out dodgy stuff before it's ready (like Fedora shipping SystemD in 2011.) And Ubuntu particularly has a track record of pushing shit that's obviously DOA, like Mir, Unity, or snap. At least when Fedora does something like ship SystemD before the kinks are worked out, what they chose does eventually become the mainstream. But you're still a guinea pig with Fedora, making it a poor choice for an OEM distro.

Mikeb85 4y ago
> I've heard rumor that the future of OpenSUSE Leap is now in doubt. Yes because the future is OpenSUSE MicroOS aka ALP. Rolling release, immutable system, all apps are containerized (Flatpak and Toolbox/Podman). Using it right now, easily best Linux desktop to date, even with a few bugs here and there. Ubuntu and Fedora, for all the bugs and shit they've pulled over the years, are still way more usable than pretty much any other Linux desktop outside the big 3...

goodpoint 4y ago

You forgot Debian, who was there before and it's essentially Ubuntu minus some cruft.

Mikeb85 4y ago
And with such outdated software it doesn't run on a laptop until it's ready to be replaced...
- goodpoint 4y ago
  Not at all. For desktop use you can stay on Testing or Unstable which are just as up to date as any rolling distribution.

lproven 4y ago

The 1st release of Ubuntu was 4.10 in 2004. Perhaps you meant Debian? Red Hat and SUSE do go back nearly 30 years. Only Slackware is as old, AFAIK.