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The whole paragraph is self explanatory and makes sense in this article because it prohibits huge swaths of people from adopting EVs. Some people tend to freak

by evv 4y ago

The whole paragraph is self explanatory and makes sense in this article because it prohibits huge swaths of people from adopting EVs. Some people tend to freak out when race is mentioned, I suppose, so they can't even read a few more lines of context.

giantg2 4y ago
I would think being low income is itself prohibitive to adopting electric.
- toast0 4y ago
  If your needs fit its range, off lease Leafs were pretty low cost when I was last looking; you could get an older gas car for much less and not everyone can afford a $10,000 car. Electric $/mile operating cost is very often less than gas $/mile, especially if you have significant access to free charging. Of course, if you move, you might need to get a different car.
  - coredog64 4y ago
    Nissan cheaped out on the Leaf and didn’t include any battery cooling. A used Leaf that spent any time in a hot climate and was charged to get the published range is unlikely to have a battery at full capacity.
  - mellavora 4y ago
    > especially if you have significant access to free charging. and if you don't? Because your apartment building doesn't offer it, and low-wage jobs are less likely to include it as a perk.. and OMG, the US tied health insurance to jobs and what a clusterfuck that is, so severely limiting entrepreneurship, now we want to tie "ability to charge your car" to employment? Can't quit your job because you don't have a charger at home and public ones are rare/expensive??
  - Sohcahtoa82 4y ago
    > Electric $/mile operating cost is very often less than gas $/mile, especially if you have significant access to free charging. If you can charge at home, then electric $/mile is usually significantly cheaper. For me, my electricity is 11 cents/kWh, which made driving about 1/4 the price per mile as the 32 mpg Subaru BRZ I drove before my Tesla, and with gas over $5/gallon now, it's more like 1/5th the price. But if you can't charge at home, it's very likely nearly as expensive as gas. Electrify America, ChargePoint, etc. are not cheap. I usually see them around 50 cents/kWh.
    - toast0 4y ago
      Hmm, around me, most of the paid charging is close to home prices. Although there's a few that are crazy prices.
vehemenz 4y ago
The context of the story is EVs, vehicles that are primarily purchased by the upper 20-25%. It's not clear how minorities are disproportionately affected or stand to benefit disproportionately by urban EV charging adoption if they generally cannot afford them in the first place.

by evv 4y ago

giantg2 4y ago

I would think being low income is itself prohibitive to adopting electric.

toast0 4y ago
If your needs fit its range, off lease Leafs were pretty low cost when I was last looking; you could get an older gas car for much less and not everyone can afford a $10,000 car. Electric $/mile operating cost is very often less than gas $/mile, especially if you have significant access to free charging. Of course, if you move, you might need to get a different car.
- coredog64 4y ago
  Nissan cheaped out on the Leaf and didn’t include any battery cooling. A used Leaf that spent any time in a hot climate and was charged to get the published range is unlikely to have a battery at full capacity.
- mellavora 4y ago
  > especially if you have significant access to free charging. and if you don't? Because your apartment building doesn't offer it, and low-wage jobs are less likely to include it as a perk.. and OMG, the US tied health insurance to jobs and what a clusterfuck that is, so severely limiting entrepreneurship, now we want to tie "ability to charge your car" to employment? Can't quit your job because you don't have a charger at home and public ones are rare/expensive??
- Sohcahtoa82 4y ago
  > Electric $/mile operating cost is very often less than gas $/mile, especially if you have significant access to free charging. If you can charge at home, then electric $/mile is usually significantly cheaper. For me, my electricity is 11 cents/kWh, which made driving about 1/4 the price per mile as the 32 mpg Subaru BRZ I drove before my Tesla, and with gas over $5/gallon now, it's more like 1/5th the price. But if you can't charge at home, it's very likely nearly as expensive as gas. Electrify America, ChargePoint, etc. are not cheap. I usually see them around 50 cents/kWh.
  - toast0 4y ago
    Hmm, around me, most of the paid charging is close to home prices. Although there's a few that are crazy prices.

vehemenz 4y ago

The context of the story is EVs, vehicles that are primarily purchased by the upper 20-25%. It's not clear how minorities are disproportionately affected or stand to benefit disproportionately by urban EV charging adoption if they generally cannot afford them in the first place.