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By Firefox own stats, over 60% of their users don't have a single extension installed (?!) and Firefox users should be a more tech savvy ones. I guess for Chro

by wooque 4y ago

By Firefox own stats, over 60% of their users don't have a single extension installed (?!) and Firefox users should be a more tech savvy ones. I guess for Chrome that share is even greater. Most people don't use extensions and don't know ad-blocking is even a thing.

cassianoleal 4y ago
That data is likely biased. I imagine most tech-savvy Firefox users disable telemetry.
- smcleod 4y ago
  This.
- wisnoskij 4y ago
  Sure, but if their was anything I was to believe was a tiny minority of users it would be opting out of telemetry. If they are under 10-20% they wont sway the end result enough to matter, and I really expect they are.
  - cassianoleal 4y ago
    The comment I was responding to said: > Firefox users should be a more tech savvy ones Now in the same thread you're suggesting a tiny minority of users are tech savvy. Sorry, but can't have it both ways - majority savvy and minority savvy. It's either-or.
matheusmoreira 4y ago
They should fix that by shipping Firefox with uBlock Origin included.
- RunSet 4y ago
  Unlikely: > Mozilla has renewed its lucrative nine-figure deal with Google to ensure its search engine is the default in Firefox in the US and other parts of the world. ... > Moz will likely pocket $400m to $450m a year between now and 2023 from the arrangement ... > More than 90 per cent of Mozilla's funding comes from web search providers that pay for the right to be the default search engine in Firefox in their regions. According to the organization's latest financial figures, $430m of its 2018 total revenue of $451m came from those internet giants – primarily Google https://www.theregister.com/2020/08/14/mozilla_google_search/ https://www.theregister.com/2020/08/14/mozilla_google_search...
WorldMaker 4y ago
According to many ad networks today just using Firefox is "ad-blocking" because it is not Chrome and is missing Chrome features. I know I'm satisfied with Firefox built-in Enhanced Tracking Protection, so I don't have an extension installed for "ad blocking", but my problem is not ads but ad trackers. I don't mind "non-personalized, non-targeted" ads and I welcome them in many cases, but I do mind ad trackers and I loathe any attempt at "personalized" ads. (Though I don't have 0 extensions installed even then, I like Tree Tab Plus and Multi-Account Container. Multi-Account Container is of course another reason the ad networks believe I "block ads" even though I technically do not. It seems better for me that Google, Twitter, and Facebook accounts are never logged in at the same time in the same tab.)

by wooque 4y ago

cassianoleal 4y ago

That data is likely biased. I imagine most tech-savvy Firefox users disable telemetry.

smcleod 4y ago
This.
wisnoskij 4y ago
Sure, but if their was anything I was to believe was a tiny minority of users it would be opting out of telemetry. If they are under 10-20% they wont sway the end result enough to matter, and I really expect they are.
- cassianoleal 4y ago
  The comment I was responding to said: > Firefox users should be a more tech savvy ones Now in the same thread you're suggesting a tiny minority of users are tech savvy. Sorry, but can't have it both ways - majority savvy and minority savvy. It's either-or.

matheusmoreira 4y ago

They should fix that by shipping Firefox with uBlock Origin included.

RunSet 4y ago
Unlikely: > Mozilla has renewed its lucrative nine-figure deal with Google to ensure its search engine is the default in Firefox in the US and other parts of the world. ... > Moz will likely pocket $400m to $450m a year between now and 2023 from the arrangement ... > More than 90 per cent of Mozilla's funding comes from web search providers that pay for the right to be the default search engine in Firefox in their regions. According to the organization's latest financial figures, $430m of its 2018 total revenue of $451m came from those internet giants – primarily Google https://www.theregister.com/2020/08/14/mozilla_google_search/ https://www.theregister.com/2020/08/14/mozilla_google_search...

WorldMaker 4y ago

According to many ad networks today just using Firefox is "ad-blocking" because it is not Chrome and is missing Chrome features. I know I'm satisfied with Firefox built-in Enhanced Tracking Protection, so I don't have an extension installed for "ad blocking", but my problem is not ads but ad trackers. I don't mind "non-personalized, non-targeted" ads and I welcome them in many cases, but I do mind ad trackers and I loathe any attempt at "personalized" ads. (Though I don't have 0 extensions installed even then, I like Tree Tab Plus and Multi-Account Container. Multi-Account Container is of course another reason the ad networks believe I "block ads" even though I technically do not. It seems better for me that Google, Twitter, and Facebook accounts are never logged in at the same time in the same tab.)