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My favorite nuclear disaster! Criticality events. I lived in Los Alamos for a while. I looked into renting a studio space. I became curious about the property
by code_duck 4y ago
My favorite nuclear disaster! Criticality events.
I lived in Los Alamos for a while. I looked into renting a studio space. I became curious about the property across the street from my prospective rental which was surrounded by a chain link fence with green canvas. I researched and learned it was the site of an original Manhattan site waste dump which had, a few years prior, been enclosed with a negative pressure tent and cleaned up at a cost of 2-3 billion. Apparently the government had dumped an unknown quantity of high level nuclear waste there in an unlined pit in the dirt in the 40s. This led me to research the history of the area.
After a couple of months I figured out that my house in White Rock was about 3/4 of a mile from the current waste dump for the entire lab, known as TA-53 or MDA-C or something. They were in the process of excavating the three 200 foot deep pits of MDA-C - one for low level nuclear waste, one for transuranic (as they call “high level” these days) and one for classified waste. If I stood on my roof I could see the negative pressure tents surrounding them. My favorite non-classified project which was disposed of there was the “experimental high temperature plutonium reactor”, from the 90s.
The lab has some rather interesting history. There was no concept at all of safely disposing of anything or even recording what they dumped and where until the 60s. The first ever radioactive metal working facility, out on a ridge by the entrance to town (TA 21? 23?) dumped all of their wastewater directly into the canyon untreated. This has recently been cleaned up at a cost of several billion dollars also, and now they are building homes there. The heavy/radioactive metal plumes went down into the earth over 500 feet. In fact, all of the waste from the entire lab used to be dumped into a stream in the middle of town. They cleaned it up, opened it as a park (“Acid Canyon”), then after heavy rains found some barrels they missed which were determined to contain plutonium waste. Oops, cleaned that up some more and now it’s a nature preserve and hiking area. There are still untouched facilities from the 50s where Feynman worked on polonium experiments sitting a few hundred feet from the banks of the Rio Grande.
There was a power plant right on the edge of a native reservation neighboring the lab. According to the federal government, the plume of chromium contamination it left ends exactly on the property line of the lab to the reservation.
Everyone I met in Los Alamos had zero concerns about pollution having an impact on them.
- code_duck 4y agoLooking into this, I have most of the names wrong. For anyone interested this site is a decent guide to the basics: https://n3b-la.com/mda/ https://n3b-la.com/mda/
- AndrewGaspar 4y ago> Everyone I met in Los Alamos had zero concerns about pollution having an impact on them. I mean, are they wrong? By all conventional metrics, Los Alamos County is one of the healthiest counties in the country. Obviously there are major confounders, but if it doesn’t readily show in the data maybe zero concern is the right level.
- twawaaay 4y agoAre they being screened more frequently and thoroughly than the rest of US, on average? You can solve a lot of health problems by just screening people frequently... including offsetting pretty serious pollution.
- godelski 4y agoThey are also typically more highly educated and more well off. After all, it is a town settled by scientists. These types of towns typically are outliers under a lot of metrics.
- code_duck 4y agoI found it somewhat reassuring, as these were people trained in nuclear science, invested in the area and raising families there. However, they're not ecologists or doctors, and are basically the successors of the people who randomly dumped a bunch of nuclear waste all over. I'm sure if you asked in the 50s they would have told you oh yeah, it's fine, it's under 30 feet of dirt. I asked one nuclear chemist what he thought about the new housing developments at TA-21 (or whatever it is), the site of the milling facility. He said "Sure, I'd live there. Well, I'd take my geiger counter". Los Alamos is higher elevation than surrounding areas, on top of sandy soil that drains to the Rio Grande. I'd be more concerned about the health impacts on the people in the watershed. Los Alamos County has one of the highest per capita incomes and education levels in the country (I believe it has the highest percentage of PhDs), and pretty much everyone there works for the Labs, either as scientists or support staff. I'd me more concerned about the health impact on neighboring communities such as San Ildefonso Pueblo, which is quite the opposite - one of the lowest income and education levels in the country. Santa Fe is also a short distance down the river. The reservations there have indeed raised concerns about the impact of pollution on them, such as the aforementioned battle over chromium contamination.