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Interestingly the people who say others should die to “fix” overpopulation change their minds when they’re up. We can solve overpopulation in other ways than le

Interestingly the people who say others should die to “fix” overpopulation change their minds when they’re up. We can solve overpopulation in other ways than letting people die.

kajaktum 4y ago
It's obviously bad to want other people to die but there is a case to be made that no life (that can suffer) should be created. It also depend on what we mean by immortal, are they technically just alive? Or actively flourishing?
- robgibbons 4y ago
  "Life is no way to treat an animal"
- jquery 4y ago
  It’s not necessary to do that, but we would have to move away from the current free for all. Probably a strict waiting list to have children, or something simpler like a one child policy. Sustainability would become vastly more important than our current short term horizons.
- nradov 4y ago
  There is no such case. That's just silly. Suffering isn't even something that should necessarily be avoided.
- luxuryballs 4y ago
  Better to end life entirely than to exist and endure suffering? This is a terrifyingly grim way of thinking, would you really rather not have experienced this world? There must be something in life you think is worth living for.
whichfawkes 4y ago
Just because I might turn chicken in my old age doesn't mean that my death wouldn't be a benefit for most people. There's one other way to "solve" overpopulation, and it's galactic conquest. Everything else we might do eventually devolves into nothing but shades of austerity and deprivation as we divide our planet up between more people. That's not to say that technical progress won't mitigate that problem. And yet, as it mitigates it, we tend to just make more people...so it's not like we're manufacturing much more runway for ourselves as a species.
Lammy 4y ago
<woo-woo-bullshit> The very idea of “overpopulation” is a rich man’s trick to arrest Humanity’s collectively-singular evolution to Oneness. We can become The Pyramid Unfinished together instead, racing against ourself to convert lifetimes worth of our only truly-limited human resource (our attention) into a non-human form that can be accumulated into a godlike simulacrum, beating death via the symmetric property of equality where money also equals time :)
- etrautmann 4y ago
  Wut
  - Lammy 4y ago
    iykyk http://www.greatseal.com/symbols/pyramid.html http://www.greatseal.com/symbols/pyramid.html
karaterobot 4y ago
By this logic, death bed conversions are a strong argument for the existence of god. In any case, I can't recall there being an epidemic of people doing the thing you're saying they do all the time: are you thinking of any specific examples?

Interestingly the people who say others should die to “fix” overpopulation change their minds when they’re up. We can solve overpopulation in other ways than letting people die.

kajaktum 4y ago

It's obviously bad to want other people to die but there is a case to be made that no life (that can suffer) should be created. It also depend on what we mean by immortal, are they technically just alive? Or actively flourishing?

robgibbons 4y ago
"Life is no way to treat an animal"
jquery 4y ago
It’s not necessary to do that, but we would have to move away from the current free for all. Probably a strict waiting list to have children, or something simpler like a one child policy. Sustainability would become vastly more important than our current short term horizons.
nradov 4y ago
There is no such case. That's just silly. Suffering isn't even something that should necessarily be avoided.
luxuryballs 4y ago
Better to end life entirely than to exist and endure suffering? This is a terrifyingly grim way of thinking, would you really rather not have experienced this world? There must be something in life you think is worth living for.

whichfawkes 4y ago

Just because I might turn chicken in my old age doesn't mean that my death wouldn't be a benefit for most people. There's one other way to "solve" overpopulation, and it's galactic conquest. Everything else we might do eventually devolves into nothing but shades of austerity and deprivation as we divide our planet up between more people. That's not to say that technical progress won't mitigate that problem. And yet, as it mitigates it, we tend to just make more people...so it's not like we're manufacturing much more runway for ourselves as a species.

Lammy 4y ago

<woo-woo-bullshit> The very idea of “overpopulation” is a rich man’s trick to arrest Humanity’s collectively-singular evolution to Oneness. We can become The Pyramid Unfinished together instead, racing against ourself to convert lifetimes worth of our only truly-limited human resource (our attention) into a non-human form that can be accumulated into a godlike simulacrum, beating death via the symmetric property of equality where money also equals time :)

etrautmann 4y ago
Wut
- Lammy 4y ago
  iykyk http://www.greatseal.com/symbols/pyramid.html http://www.greatseal.com/symbols/pyramid.html

karaterobot 4y ago

By this logic, death bed conversions are a strong argument for the existence of god. In any case, I can't recall there being an epidemic of people doing the thing you're saying they do all the time: are you thinking of any specific examples?